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[StillMill Profile]

Not that is matters much now, but if you re-watch the game-winning TD in OT, the left TE/wingback is a full TWO yards off the LOS and thus this should have been flagged for an illegal formation. Just sayin'.

Of course, Royal never had TWO feet in bounds on his TD catch, either. ONE foot lands in bounds, and then his ass-cheek lands OUT of bounds. Somehow, the mandatory review deemed this a TD.

Adolf Goodell will probably issue an apology letter on Thurs.

It's all water on the bridge. Fact is, LeBeau had his ass whipped by a vomit-spewing QB. Had we had a defensive gameplan better than what a 6th grader could come up with, we win this game in a breeze.

[Steelers76 Profile]

Thanks for posting this. Those 2 non- calls, plus The Harrison "roughing the passer" penalty were sheer and utter bullshit, and the type of garbage I've come to accept from Adolph Goddell's Gustopo. But as you said, LeBlo still got taken to school by a QB who had been putting up embarrassing numbers for a high school kid at the same position. Please, Dick. Just retire already and take Aryans with you.

[PGHeaven Profile]

Saw it again. Mill is dead on right. End is not covered and this is called every FN time, except of course, in a playoff game involving the Steelers. What matters here is the corrupt regime of Adolf Godell and the silence of the Roonies. The MFing Zebras, as is my wont to call them, are ruining the game of football in conjunction with the Fascist rulings handed down by Godells SS.

Also, todays article quotes Momlin as saying that he would not change the defense if given a chance to turn back time. This is MIND FUCKING BLOWING . And illustrates that as of right now, Tomlin is admitting that he would pursue a losing strategy is given another chance

Theerefore, I am now saying

FIRE TOMLIN FIRE ARIANS FIRE LEBEAU

[clarioncall Profile]

This may all be true. I gave up on overtime viewing BECAUSE if we can't manage going 60 yd in 1:40 seconds for a damn field goal, we don't sdeserve to be there in the forst place.

HOW MANY GAMES DO WE HAVE TO BLOW BECAUSE WE CAN'T MANAGE A DAMN CLOCK?
The whole staff ought to go over this one!

Arians for stubborning trying those insipid WR screens,l not getting to Antonio in 1st half, should I continue...?
LeBeau for not changing coverages.

Tomlin for allowing this crap.

[SteelPower Profile]

Saw it again. Mill is dead on right. End is not covered and this is called every FN time, except of course, in a playoff game involving the Steelers. What matters here is the corrupt regime of Adolf Godell and the silence of the Roonies. The MFing Zebras, as is my wont to call them, are ruining the game of football in conjunction with the Fascist rulings handed down by Godells SS.

Also, todays article quotes Momlin as saying that he would not change the defense if given a chance to turn back time. This is MIND FUCKING BLOWING . And illustrates that as of right now, Tomlin is admitting that he would pursue a losing strategy is given another chance

Theerefore, I am now saying

FIRE TOMLIN FIRE ARIANS FIRE LEBEAU

Rooney Rule Coach with no real leadership ability and not allowed to make changes by the Rooney's or afraid to do so. It is the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. When has he ever fired a single coach, made any coaching change unless an asssisant left on their own or ever brought one of his coaches to task? Bill Coward would be firing today if he was still coach. You got at least respect that he tried to do something. Tomlin will continue with the status quo, his words in a nut shell.

[Pommah Profile]

However the biggest blown call of the game was the dropped lateral that was ruled a forward pass. Ref right there. Game over if they call that one correctly.

You've still gotta be able to win with some bad calls going against you.

[SteelThatDon'tRust Profile]

Saw it again. Mill is dead on right. End is not covered and this is called every FN time, except of course, in a playoff game involving the Steelers. What matters here is the corrupt regime of Adolf Godell and the silence of the Roonies. The MFing Zebras, as is my wont to call them, are ruining the game of football in conjunction with the Fascist rulings handed down by Godells SS.

Also, todays article quotes Momlin as saying that he would not change the defense if given a chance to turn back time. This is MIND FUCKING BLOWING . And illustrates that as of right now, Tomlin is admitting that he would pursue a losing strategy is given another chance

Theerefore, I am now saying

FIRE TOMLIN FIRE ARIANS FIRE LEBEAU

Remember Tomlin is a company man. Take his comments with a grain of salt as he may just not be wanting to call Dick out publicly and cause an internal shit storm in the organization. Tomlin would most certainly do something differently.

[SteelThatDon'tRust Profile]

However the biggest blown call of the game was the dropped lateral that was ruled a forward pass. Ref right there. Game over if they call that one correctly.

You've still gotta be able to win with some bad calls going against you.

[StillDodger Profile]

However the biggest blown call of the game was the dropped lateral that was ruled a forward pass. Ref right there. Game over if they call that one correctly.

You've still gotta be able to win with some bad calls going against you.

That's right....... I don't think the lineman a little off the line would have made any difference on that game-winning play. It's sour grapes.

Aside from that, and the questionable Harrison RTP penalty, I thought the officiating in that game was quite good. (Flame suit on.) In most part, they let the players play.

I'll also say that had the Stillers won in OT, everybody would have been talking about the blown call on that dropped lateral. (What makes me think Mike Wallace's head has gotten a bit big as of late? His focus has gone in the tank. Have you also noticed almost no show-boating by the Broncos' receivers? Maybe our receivers can learn something.)

I'm not on the "Fire LeBeau" bandwagon, but I do think one of his worst flaws is judgment of personnel. His schemes work very well with the right players, but if nothing else, Ike Taylor was exposed for the fraud he really is. (He IMO was why the Steelers have had a hard time defensing third-and-long...... The only plays he ever makes is tackling the receiver after he catches the pass.) My hope is that both he and Bruce Arians are gone.

[Pommah Profile]

Why is everybody so up firing LeBeau? Arians is worse. We did in fact give up the fewest points during the regular season. We sure put up damn few points given the weapons we have, and I don't think the line is shitty, I just don't think it's great. Our inability to put points on the board is infuriating. And someone has to coach Ben. The dude is 30 frigging years old for next season, he still doesnt throw it away when he should, he still doesnt make decisions quickly enough, he still throws some amazingly bone headed picks, and he should be able to run the game clock on his own and the end of the halves by now much better than he is. He doesnt run the dam team (though he should be allowed to do the hurry up more) and the way he plays has gotten him hurt alot and he's gonna cut his career short.

I remember when Bradshaw wasn't doing the best job of focusing and was being the wild-assed gunslinger, Noll yanked his butt for Joe Gilliam, who had a halfway decent run. Bradshaw came back humbled and more focused and a more professional NFL quarterback. And won four superbowls.

[StillDodger Profile]

Why is everybody so up firing LeBeau? Arians is worse.

Replacing Arians would almost certainly be an upgrade. Replacing LeBeau would likely be a downgrade.

[PGHeaven Profile]

However the biggest blown call of the game was the dropped lateral that was ruled a forward pass. Ref right there. Game over if they call that one correctly.

You've still gotta be able to win with some bad calls going against you.

That's right....... I don't think the lineman a little off the line would have made any difference on that game-winning play. It's sour grapes.

Aside from that, and the questionable Harrison RTP penalty, I thought the officiating in that game was quite good. (Flame suit on.) In most part, they let the players play.

I'll also say that had the Stillers won in OT, everybody would have been talking about the blown call on that dropped lateral. (What makes me think Mike Wallace's head has gotten a bit big as of late? His focus has gone in the tank. Have you also noticed almost no show-boating by the Broncos' receivers? Maybe our receivers can learn something.)

I'm not on the "Fire LeBeau" bandwagon, but I do think one of his worst flaws is judgment of personnel. His schemes work very well with the right players, but if nothing else, Ike Taylor was exposed for the fraud he really is. (He IMO was why the Steelers have had a hard time defensing third-and-long...... The only plays he ever makes is tackling the receiver after he catches the pass.) My hope is that both he and Bruce Arians are gone.

It is entirely true that the blown calls were not the reason we lost. Not my point people. My point is that Godell is ruining the NFL and that part of his plan includes the overreach of incompetent officials.

We were beat by Tebow! And we were beat by Tebow mainly due to the wretched flabberghasting defensive scheme of LeBeau. There is NO spin that can justify Lebeaus SHIT coaching. I dont give a hoot what any of the in the tank Pittsburgh Journalists write. Lebeau brought the safties up and put the corners on the outside shoulder. There Is NO WAY to defend this blatent incompetence

[PGHeaven Profile]

However the biggest blown call of the game was the dropped lateral that was ruled a forward pass. Ref right there. Game over if they call that one correctly.

You've still gotta be able to win with some bad calls going against you.

That's right....... I don't think the lineman a little off the line would have made any difference on that game-winning play. It's sour grapes.

Aside from that, and the questionable Harrison RTP penalty, I thought the officiating in that game was quite good. (Flame suit on.) In most part, they let the players play.

I'll also say that had the Stillers won in OT, everybody would have been talking about the blown call on that dropped lateral. (What makes me think Mike Wallace's head has gotten a bit big as of late? His focus has gone in the tank. Have you also noticed almost no show-boating by the Broncos' receivers? Maybe our receivers can learn something.)

I'm not on the "Fire LeBeau" bandwagon, but I do think one of his worst flaws is judgment of personnel. His schemes work very well with the right players, but if nothing else, Ike Taylor was exposed for the fraud he really is. (He IMO was why the Steelers have had a hard time defensing third-and-long...... The only plays he ever makes is tackling the receiver after he catches the pass.) My hope is that both he and Bruce Arians are gone.

It is entirely true that the blown calls were not the reason we lost. Not my point people. My point is that Godell is ruining the NFL and that part of his plan includes the overreach of incompetent officials.

We were beat by Tebow! And we were beat by Tebow mainly due to the wretched flabberghasting defensive scheme of LeBeau. There is NO spin that can justify Lebeaus SHIT coaching. I dont give a hoot what any of the in the tank Pittsburgh Journalists write. Lebeau brought the safties up and put the corners on the outside shoulder. There Is NO WAY to defend this blatent incompetence

[clarioncall Profile]

We were beat by Tebow! And we were beat by Tebow mainly due to the wretched flabberghasting defensive scheme of LeBeau. There is NO spin that can justify Lebeaus SHIT coaching. I dont give a hoot what any of the in the tank Pittsburgh Journalists write. Lebeau brought the safties up and put the corners on the outside shoulder. There Is NO WAY to defend this blatent incompetence

WE WERE BEAT BY OUR DUMBASS OC. No, we can't blame him for Crotchery's drop or some of the other easy misses.
We CAN POINT TO HIM for letting Ben take so damn many sacks - when is someone going to figure out we have the receivers to run a 3-step drop offense and keep the damn ball? This ass sends everyone deep and hopes heaven smiles down on him. Where was Redzone all freaking year to spell Socrates? He DESERVES 12-15 carries PER GAME. Cleveland game we can't punch in on 4 tries? KC, Balt and a few others we can't convert 3rd dns to keep possession? Our MVP gets 1 touch in 1st half or was it not until 2nd half that he finally sees the ball vs Doncos. Wally's assaholic cradle catch to lose 50 yds. Those insiped WR bubble screens. I could go on. WE CAN"T SCORE because our own OC can't adjust his girdle, let alone a game plan to take advantage of a defense weakness.

Ben going into 9th yr and STILL CAN'T FIND A WAY TO TOSS THE BALL AWAY. Hell, rookies can do it. It seems he thinks every play has a 10-sec delay rush . Take his time and look around awhile. That is coaching and it should be experience but I just don't think he learns from experience. Too much talent on this team, so little intellect coaching it.

LeBeau should be embarrassed by getting tooled and daring them to pass. But then again, I am sure in practice he did the same thing and Ben did what he ALWAYS DOES..... 9 in the box? Screw it, we'll run it and try to fool them! When has Ben EVER fooled a defense by throwing when the box was loaded? 8-9 man front -Mendy to left, Mendy to right. 3rd down is prayer time.

[StillDodger Profile]

Ben going into 9th yr and STILL CAN'T FIND A WAY TO TOSS THE BALL AWAY.

He did this three times in the Denver game......

Too much talent on this team, so little intellect coaching it.

That's an understatement..........

LeBeau should be embarrassed by getting tooled and daring them to pass.

He grossly overestimated Ike Taylor, the most-overrated Steeler in history....... I'll be EXTREMELY disappointed if he's a starting corner for us next season.

But then again, I am sure in practice he did the same thing and Ben did what he ALWAYS DOES..... 9 in the box? Screw it, we'll run it and try to fool them! When has Ben EVER fooled a defense by throwing when the box was loaded?

Does BA even know what play would be effective to fool the defense? Ben might be pleasantly surprised if he were to get another OC.

8-9 man front -Mendy to left, Mendy to right. 3rd down is prayer time.

That's Bruce Arians...... He calls plays totally oblivious to defensive tendencies.

[indysteel Profile]

This team played like crap all year long. How they had the record they had going into the playoffs is a bit of a mystery.

Fellas, the injuries hurt. Also, they ARE old AND lacking talent at this point.

You can blame the OC and DC to an extent. I agree. But that game was lost before it ever began.

All year, this team looked lethargic, tired, confused, and indifferent.

Their luck finally ran out. Now, is Denver a better team? Nah. But they were last week for 60 minutes. The Steeler's simply didn't want it, from the coaches on down to the players. They went through the motion and wanted to get it over so they could go home.

Fact is, their at home banging their wives, playing golf, making vacation plans, etc.......while we sit here and lament the loss. If those sorry SOBs don't care, I sure as hell don't.

[steelandblood Profile]

Tomlin has accomplished way more in his first five seasons than Cowher ever did.

The fact the Rooney rule phrase keeps coming up is a window into why some really want him canned. I'm not going to name names because I can't truly see into the souls of anyone, but any reasonable person can see where some of this venom comes from in light of Tomlin's accomplishments, even light of his faults.

2007 - 10-7, afc north champions.
2008 - 15-4, Superbowl XLIII champions
2009 - 9-7
2010 - 14-5, AFC champions
2011 - 12-5, wildcard qualifier, lost division on a tiebreaker

Undefeated at home in the AFC title game. 5-3 in the postseason.

Now, Cowher's first five years, when pretty much no one, including me, thought he should be canned.

1992 - 11-6, afc central champions
1993 - 9-8, wildcard qualifier
1994 - 13-5, afc central champions
1995 - 13-6, afc champions
1996 - 11-7, afc central champions

Tomlin's five season totals: 60-28, incl. 5-3 postseason. 3 division titles, 2 conference titles and 1 world championship
Cowher's first five seasons: 57-32, incl. 4-5 posteason. 4 division titles, 1 conference title.

There's not a quantum leap of difference here, except for the notable differences in superbowl and conference titles, as well as the fact a Tomlin coached team has never handed us an AFCC embarassment like '94, or some of Cowher's masterpieces of dogshit like 2001 and especially 2004, the most humiliating defeats the Steelers have taken in the postseason outside of the superbowl.

Also, I feel as though I'm the only person in this discussion who can see that Tomlin was never given true control over his staff. His DC was picked out for him, as was his OC. The only assistant Cowher retained was Dick Hoak, the most overqualified running backs coach ever-- but he did not run the offense. Yeah, Tomlin's clock management makes me gnash my teeth and my face turn maroon often, but he hasn't earned getting shitcanned.

Honestly this sounds like a bunch of petulant yankee fans calling for Girardi's head (again.)

[Pommah Profile]

S&B, I'm with you.

As a team, we have an embarrassment of riches. I live in Patriot land. Looking back, I can see Kraft cheaped out on his team. He got Brady to take a hometown discount, and then didn't spend the savings on decent other players. You've got one of the best quarterbacks in the league, in 2006 he's throwing to some dude named Reche Caldwell as his leading receiver. Guy was never heard of before, and never since. In '07 they got Moss only because the Raiders are picking up some of his nut, and Brady has the best season of his career. We never worry about crap like that. No, we have a franchise that gives a damn about its players. Practically every other one, they are just so much meat.

Tomlin has performed more than well enough. Time for him to be his own man, and let hims have who he wants as coordinators. Let him pull a Belichick and be his own DC. That would be ballsy, which is why I like it. We need a younger more hip OC who gets that the game has changed, but someone who can control BR7. I have no clue who that would be. Any ideas out there? Its one thing to bitch about Arians, lets get some names out there. Preferably from within the organization, but we shouldn't hold ourselves strictly to that. Takers?