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[oldschoolhunkie Profile]

First, why haven't we done more to improve the back-up quarterback situation?

Dude, have you looked around the NFL? It's a nightmare out there for backup qbs... Losing Lefty seems to have hurt more than most of us including me realized.

The game was just a turd.

[m1k3 Profile]

What do we want? I can answer that. Did you see the defensive performance by the 49ers? Turnovers. Sacks. Pressures. That is what we want. We also want a scheme that makes sense. You know, where you try to stop what the other team is likely to do and require them to beat you doing that which they are not good at. This is the general philosophy of Patriots football and is why folks regard Belechick as such a good coach. On Monday, we did about none of that. We allowed SF to do that which they can do -- dink and dunk, throw to TE, etc. We did not require them to do that which they do not do well -- like throw deep, have to beat press coverage with their back-up receivers, have to deal with extreme pressure, etc. We basically got lucky when they could not score a TD with first and goal from the 2 and on several other possessions. If you watch the individual third down plays, many of them are laughable. 3rd and nine but we play an eleven yard cushion so a WR simply needs to do a basic out cut and get the first. We allow plays that are basically the equivalent of run 5 yards and turn around.
Good teams with a problem offense that has a hurt QB do not play like that. They mkae plays. They press receivers. They force turnovers. They hit hard. The pressure the QB. Again, all the stuff we did not do. Remembers the Jets playoff game last year. We want to do more of that. Not more of this "feel free to have an automatic five to eight yards whenever you want." You cannot get TOs when the other teams QB is so comfortable he does not have to take chances.

You're pointing out all of these plays that their defense made, as if they were so awesome. We moved the ball against them pretty well - especially early in the game. We were marching right down the field with almost no resistance on our first possession. Then Ben threw a horrible, one legged pass into the endzone that was picked off. Sure, give them credit for taking advantage of the situation, but it's not like it was created by blanket coverage or an incredible pass rush. Pretty much all of the turnovers were because of Ben's bum ankle. It was affecting his throws and he couldn't leave the pocket at all. It's not like their defense totally dominated us. They started teeing off more later in the game because they knew Ben couldn't move and they could afford to take risks because they built on their lead.

Look, I'd like to see more press coverage from our defense too. The 'dink and dunk' approach seems to be all the rage in the NFL, and pressing the receivers (like we did in the NE game this year) seems to be the best way to combat it.

Having said that, if I asked 'if we could hold a team to 189 yards passing and 100 yards rushing going into any game, would that be acceptable?' everyone would probably answer 'yes' 95 times out of 100.

This was a rare case of where a stellar (but not great) defensive effort was just not good enough, because our offense was horrible.

[zapunto Profile]

What do we want? I can answer that. Did you see the defensive performance by the 49ers? Turnovers. Sacks. Pressures. That is what we want. We also want a scheme that makes sense. You know, where you try to stop what the other team is likely to do and require them to beat you doing that which they are not good at.

Having said that, if I asked 'if we could hold a team to 189 yards passing and 100 yards rushing going into any game, would that be acceptable?' everyone would probably answer 'yes' 95 times out of 100. This was a rare case of where a stellar (but not great) defensive effort was just not good enough, because our offense was horrible.

If I read someone bring up "we only held the 49ers to 289 total yards" again I'm gonna commit crimes. The Steelers are #1 in the league in yards/game allowed. Anyone that watches the games knows how horrifically flawed that stat is. The Steelers are in the middle of the pack in sacks (30) and dead LAST in the league in takeaways (15). Our so-called pressure zone blitz defense...just doesn't work the way it used to. Yeah, our offense stunk. Just because the defense didn't cost us this game means they deserved a pat on the back, either.

[m1k3 Profile]

What do we want? I can answer that. Did you see the defensive performance by the 49ers? Turnovers. Sacks. Pressures. That is what we want. We also want a scheme that makes sense. You know, where you try to stop what the other team is likely to do and require them to beat you doing that which they are not good at.

Having said that, if I asked 'if we could hold a team to 189 yards passing and 100 yards rushing going into any game, would that be acceptable?' everyone would probably answer 'yes' 95 times out of 100. This was a rare case of where a stellar (but not great) defensive effort was just not good enough, because our offense was horrible.

If I read someone bring up "we only held the 49ers to 289 total yards" again I'm gonna commit crimes. The Steelers are #1 in the league in yards/game allowed. Anyone that watches the games knows how horrifically flawed that stat is. The Steelers are in the middle of the pack in sacks (30) and dead LAST in the league in takeaways (15). Our so-called pressure zone blitz defense...just doesn't work the way it used to. Yeah, our offense stunk. Just because the defense didn't cost us this game means they deserved a pat on the back, either.

You forgot to mention that we're #2 in points allowed.

Or is that insignificant too?

Again, my original point was that the defense wasn't 'savaged' as was said earlier.

[LenSherwood Profile]

Number 2 in points allowed is a deceptive stat because of the weakness of their overall schedule. INdy, Kansas City, Jacksonville, and Cleveland aren't going t light up the scoreboard. Hell for that matter neither is San Francisco. The only significant defensive effort that gives you hope is the New England game. That was outstanding. The two losses to Baltimore do not give you hope. Baltimore to recap scored what sixty some points in two games? Throwing out the ass whipping of the season opener, the defense let FLACCO win the game with an absolutely horrific performance in the last two minutes. Flacco??