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BigBen 5th best QB in the entire history of NFL. for now.
by Hi5Steeler » Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:17 am
Teammates embrace Big Ben as leader
"You can tell that he realizes this is his team."
Thursday, September 04, 2008
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Even without the new $100 million contract, the new C on his jersey, the new Pro Bowl ring, and the old Terry Bradshaw touchdown record, Ben Roethlisberger would be a superstar in Pittsburgh.
He is, after all, the only quarterback besides Bradshaw to win a Super Bowl for the Steelers, he enters his fifth season among the best at his position in the NFL and he maintains his sense of humor.
"If I get too big-headed, I get in motorcycle accidents," Roethlisberger cracked yesterday when the praise stacked high.
The place where he really has made progress, however, is in the locker room. Where once he seemed a loner and punk to teammates -- Hines Ward once called him "our wild child" -- he's now embraced more as a leader and even a friend by them. That was made more evident Monday when his teammates voted him and Ward co-captains of the offense.
"When you're young, you're young," said defensive end Aaron Smith, 32. "He's definitely matured. He's stepped into a leading role on this team, as a captain and as a player. I think he's really come a long way. He's always been a great player, but as a person and as a player, he's come a long way."
The old NFL philosophy was that it took five years for a quarterback to develop in the pros. Entering his fifth, Roethlisberger already achieved most everything. And now, there's little doubt that he also has attained control of his team. He has the track record and, at 26, the maturity to take over.
"Actually, he was a leader last year but now a lot of old faces aren't here anymore," Willie Parker said, "so it's his time to shine. He's really stepping up."
It's as if, since the departure of longtime offensive leader Alan Faneca, Roethlisberger has seized the chance to take control.
"You can tell that he realizes this is his team," tight end Heath Miller said.
A new head coach in Mike Tomlin and new coordinator in Bruce Arians gave Roethlisberger more responsibility last year by soliciting his input into the playbook, the game plans and the pass protections. He will have more this year, perhaps even an increased use of the no-huddle he ran so well at Miami (Ohio) University.
"The more I spend time with Bruce and we learn and make adjustments, the more freedom he will give me to make changes and adjust and hopefully get us in the right place and the best play possible," Roethlisberger said.
Roethlisberger broke Bradshaw's club record with 32 touchdown passes and his own record with a 104.1 passer rating last season. It was the best of his four, statistically, but Ward thinks we haven't seen anything yet.
"It's like night and day. Last year was his best year but it's scary now because he's starting to know his second and third reads and all that. You wonder how much better a season he can have coming into the second year of [Arians'] offense and having a better understanding of that."
Defensive end Brett Keisel is the closest friend Roethlisberger has in the locker room, and he disputes that the quarterback was snubbed last year when the players voted linebacker James Harrison as their MVP.
"Not to say Ben didn't play great last year," Keisel said, "but everyone thought James not only dominated on defense but on special teams too, and I think that's where he got the nod for that vote.
"Ben is a leader, he's a great leader. If you watch practice, you watch him, he has control of all his guys, he has control of the offensive line, everyone looks up to him for leadership. I think they're seeing that from him this year and that's why they elected him captain."
Because Roethlisberger is not big in the fantasy football world, he's not often mentioned among the league's best quarterbacks. But by any measure, he should be considered right after Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. His .709 winning percentage as a starter (39-16) is third among the league's quarterbacks and if he had 64 more passing attempts to qualify for the minimum of 1,500, his 92.5 career passer rating would rank him fifth in NFL history behind Steve Young at 96.8, Manning at 94.7, Kurt Warner at 93.2 and Brady at 92.9.
He did all this in his first four seasons in the league.
What might he do in his next four years, between now and 30?
"He's a young guy," Keisel said. "I think his best years are ahead of him. I think he gets better every year and he wants to win. He has that winner's attitude where he hates losing. He wants to do anything to win, and that's what the great quarterbacks have."
That others around the league have not yet concluded that Roethlisberger is such a quarterback might be their own fault, based on his accomplishments. He became the only quarterback in NFL history to go 13-0 as a starter and he did it as a rookie, then became the youngest starting quarterback to win a Super Bowl in his second season. His performance last season showed that 2006 was a fluke.
The acceptance in his own locker room is palpable.
"I really enjoy being around him," Aaron Smith said.
Inside
• Steelers add a third tight end. Notebook, Page D-6.
On the Web
Ed Bouchette and Gerry Dulac set up the Steelers' season opener against Houston on the
Steelers Report at post-gazette.com.For audio of Ben Roethlisberger talking about his leadership role go to post-gazette.com.
Ed Bouchette can be reached at ebouchette@post-gazette.com.
First published on September 4, 2008 at 12:00 am
"You can tell that he realizes this is his team."
Thursday, September 04, 2008
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Even without the new $100 million contract, the new C on his jersey, the new Pro Bowl ring, and the old Terry Bradshaw touchdown record, Ben Roethlisberger would be a superstar in Pittsburgh.
He is, after all, the only quarterback besides Bradshaw to win a Super Bowl for the Steelers, he enters his fifth season among the best at his position in the NFL and he maintains his sense of humor.
"If I get too big-headed, I get in motorcycle accidents," Roethlisberger cracked yesterday when the praise stacked high.
The place where he really has made progress, however, is in the locker room. Where once he seemed a loner and punk to teammates -- Hines Ward once called him "our wild child" -- he's now embraced more as a leader and even a friend by them. That was made more evident Monday when his teammates voted him and Ward co-captains of the offense.
"When you're young, you're young," said defensive end Aaron Smith, 32. "He's definitely matured. He's stepped into a leading role on this team, as a captain and as a player. I think he's really come a long way. He's always been a great player, but as a person and as a player, he's come a long way."
The old NFL philosophy was that it took five years for a quarterback to develop in the pros. Entering his fifth, Roethlisberger already achieved most everything. And now, there's little doubt that he also has attained control of his team. He has the track record and, at 26, the maturity to take over.
"Actually, he was a leader last year but now a lot of old faces aren't here anymore," Willie Parker said, "so it's his time to shine. He's really stepping up."
It's as if, since the departure of longtime offensive leader Alan Faneca, Roethlisberger has seized the chance to take control.
"You can tell that he realizes this is his team," tight end Heath Miller said.
A new head coach in Mike Tomlin and new coordinator in Bruce Arians gave Roethlisberger more responsibility last year by soliciting his input into the playbook, the game plans and the pass protections. He will have more this year, perhaps even an increased use of the no-huddle he ran so well at Miami (Ohio) University.
"The more I spend time with Bruce and we learn and make adjustments, the more freedom he will give me to make changes and adjust and hopefully get us in the right place and the best play possible," Roethlisberger said.
Roethlisberger broke Bradshaw's club record with 32 touchdown passes and his own record with a 104.1 passer rating last season. It was the best of his four, statistically, but Ward thinks we haven't seen anything yet.
"It's like night and day. Last year was his best year but it's scary now because he's starting to know his second and third reads and all that. You wonder how much better a season he can have coming into the second year of [Arians'] offense and having a better understanding of that."
Defensive end Brett Keisel is the closest friend Roethlisberger has in the locker room, and he disputes that the quarterback was snubbed last year when the players voted linebacker James Harrison as their MVP.
"Not to say Ben didn't play great last year," Keisel said, "but everyone thought James not only dominated on defense but on special teams too, and I think that's where he got the nod for that vote.
"Ben is a leader, he's a great leader. If you watch practice, you watch him, he has control of all his guys, he has control of the offensive line, everyone looks up to him for leadership. I think they're seeing that from him this year and that's why they elected him captain."
Because Roethlisberger is not big in the fantasy football world, he's not often mentioned among the league's best quarterbacks. But by any measure, he should be considered right after Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. His .709 winning percentage as a starter (39-16) is third among the league's quarterbacks and if he had 64 more passing attempts to qualify for the minimum of 1,500, his 92.5 career passer rating would rank him fifth in NFL history behind Steve Young at 96.8, Manning at 94.7, Kurt Warner at 93.2 and Brady at 92.9.
He did all this in his first four seasons in the league.
What might he do in his next four years, between now and 30?
"He's a young guy," Keisel said. "I think his best years are ahead of him. I think he gets better every year and he wants to win. He has that winner's attitude where he hates losing. He wants to do anything to win, and that's what the great quarterbacks have."
That others around the league have not yet concluded that Roethlisberger is such a quarterback might be their own fault, based on his accomplishments. He became the only quarterback in NFL history to go 13-0 as a starter and he did it as a rookie, then became the youngest starting quarterback to win a Super Bowl in his second season. His performance last season showed that 2006 was a fluke.
The acceptance in his own locker room is palpable.
"I really enjoy being around him," Aaron Smith said.
Inside
• Steelers add a third tight end. Notebook, Page D-6.
On the Web
Ed Bouchette and Gerry Dulac set up the Steelers' season opener against Houston on the
Steelers Report at post-gazette.com.For audio of Ben Roethlisberger talking about his leadership role go to post-gazette.com.
Ed Bouchette can be reached at ebouchette@post-gazette.com.
First published on September 4, 2008 at 12:00 am
Re: BigBen 5th best QB in the entire history of NFL. for now.
by sbbound » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:44 am
Great read. Roethlisberger has been a leader on this team for quite some time now. The C on his shoulder just makes it official. I cant friggin' wait for sunday @ 1pm
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Re: BigBen 5th best QB in the entire history of NFL. for now.
by WoodsonOfSteel » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:49 pm
I have a feeling that Roethlisberger's numbers this season are going to surpass those of last season.
Pending health, he should have a MONSTER year statistically.
I love seeing that he's now a captain. He's been trying to grab the bull by the horns and now he has control of his team.
Prediction time:
3,600 yards - 38TDs (3 rushing) - 14 INTs
Here's to football!
Pending health, he should have a MONSTER year statistically.
I love seeing that he's now a captain. He's been trying to grab the bull by the horns and now he has control of his team.
Prediction time:
3,600 yards - 38TDs (3 rushing) - 14 INTs
Here's to football!
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Re: BigBen 5th best QB in the entire history of NFL. for now.
by Hi5Steeler » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:19 pm
Im writing down 40+ passing TDs. And 2 rushing. During regular season.
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