View topic - OUTRAGOUS DISCRIMINATION BY REFEREES

[PGHeaven Profile]

This is a serious matter now. No NFL afficianado on the face othe earth can tell me that the NFL is not out to fuck the Pittsburgh Steelers. The continuing saga of bullshit horrendous penalties continues as Goodells chimps carry out his Fascist mission. There was no apolofy this last week for the utter shit that was called

[thesteelhammer Profile]

It's not even just the BOGUS penalties that are called against the Steelers;
It's not even the disproportionate fines levied against Steelers players for just playing ball;
It's not even that a Steeler was suspended for non-criminal conduct, while numerous others teams players are allowed to continue playing for their squads after being convicted of actual criminal conduct,
It's not even that our QB was allowed to be intentionally assaulted on the field in a way that had nothing to do with playing football with out a suspension and only a paultry $25,000 fine;
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It's also the absolute lack of calls for us.
There must be a section of the refs rule book that says it is legal to HOLD a steelers defender.

It was nice to see Tomlin finally get a little worked up about it this week. (Too bad it took a play that if the Bills WR had not dropped the ball, would have cost us the game.)

It does smell of a conspiracy. Could it be that Goodell doesn't want talk of Ben's incident during the most watched television broadcast of the year?

The other thing that amazes me is that these refs aways manage to get out of the stadium safely.

[KreidersRage Profile]

A few weeks ago, Goodell showed up at Paul Brown Stadium and tailgated in the parking lot for some Bengal fans (may have even been the game against us).

Could you imagine if he tried doing that at Heinz field? He'd be lucky to leave with his life.

[Steelers76 Profile]

On that absurd roughing the passer call on Harrison against Fitzpatrick, you can see that the back judge was actually reaching for the flag BEFORE Harrison even made contact. If that isn't proof of the league/refs targetting The Silverback, I don't know what is. I don't care if nothing is done about it; If I'm Harrison, I'd file a formal complaint with The Players Union about this fucking bullshit....

[Pommah Profile]

76, can you put the video on youtube or something? Anybody? If that's really the case, can clearly see the ref reaching for the flag before the hit, to me it's a real "smoking gun" that would get a lot of attention

[Tonydesal Profile]

76, can you put the video on youtube or something? Anybody? If that's really the case, can clearly see the ref reaching for the flag before the hit, to me it's a real "smoking gun" that would get a lot of attention

I totally agree.


Also, RIGHT AFTER that play, CBS showed the Harrison hits from the Cleveland game. Is it just coincidental that CBS had that footage queued up ready to go? Apparently Adolf Godell has the networks on the payroll too!

FUCK GODELL!

[Pommah Profile]

I have now watched that hit a dozen times, including slo mo and stop mo.

James led with his helmet. It doesn't help that he's short. But on these tackles where he's getting flagged and fined, as he approaches, he tucks his head. He hit fitzpatrick square in the chest with his helmet, and as fitzpatrick falls back James' helmet goes up into his chin.

NFL changes its rules all the fuckin' time, get used to it. Last year it was legal, this year it's not. Bradshaw got hit five steps after he threw the dam ball and no flag. That was then, this is now. Yes, the league is doing a crappy, random, arbitrary method of enforcement. Maybe the Steelers are getting hit with it more than other teams. But if James doesn't learn how to keep his head out of the tackle, he's going to keep getting flagged and fined. He could cost us a game. He could get suspended, and what good is he to us then. If Roethlisberger got hit the way Fitzpatrick did, we'd be screaming for the guy's head.

If I got paid the $3.5 million dollars James is getting paid this year, I'd gladly get on TV and loudly proclaim how good my boss' cock tastes every week instead of bitching about how the rules changed on me.

And the ref didn't even go to his back pocket until fitzpatrick was on the ground.

[Steelers76 Profile]

I never heard ANYTHING about a helmet to the FUCKING CHEST being illegal, just like I never heard of a "defender landing with his full body weight on a player", or a defender "cutting off The WR's route" to be actual penalties. It's pure bullshit, and making up rules as they go along. They need to start holding themselves accountable if they are to do so with other players, or this is going to get MUCH worse.

And the ref was reaching for his flag before Harrison hit The QB. Go and re-watch it. I'm not the only one who believes this either, as several sports tv/radio shows have brought this up.

[Pommah Profile]

The rule is not helmet to helmet as most people somehow think. The rule is "using the helmet as a weapon" per nfl.com. I'm sure there are more details somewhere official. But the league has given the refs a lot of leeway here, and they are using it, and as long as James is not remorseful about it, he will continue to be a target, and it could cost us dearly. He does lead with his helmet sometimes. Other players have changed the way they play, for example Hines Ward. When they established the "Hines Ward rule" he got called on it a couple of times, and then with evidence he was doing his best to comply, the refs let up on him.

I don't need to watch it again, I watched it over and over last night. Before the hit, he lowered his helmet. It does not matter where that helmet hit on Fitzgerald. The ref was right there in perfect view. He reaches for the flag when Fitzgerald gets planted, not before.

[Tonydesal Profile]

You two are both right/wrong

Poomah, I agree with the point you are trying to make. You are incorrect about the timing of the flag however.

http://www.twitvid.com/N1EL5

If you stop that vid at 3 seconds, the ref is clearly reaching for the flag and Fitz is clearly not down.

Granted at this point, the "helmet to helmet" foul (Phantom as it may be)has already occurred.

[Pommah Profile]

Fine. Officials put their hands on the flag all the time, even pull it out of the pocket, but don't necessarily throw it. There's no way he threw the flag before the end of the play.

And once again, it does not have to be "helmet to helmet" to be a foul under the new rule. Helmet first can do you in, it does not matter where the helmet contacts.

James is out another $25K for this one. And every official is going to get a pass for every foul they call on James for the rest of the season.

[Pump-N-Iron Profile]

It's not even just the BOGUS penalties that are called against the Steelers;
It's not even the disproportionate fines levied against Steelers players for just playing ball;
It's not even that a Steeler was suspended for non-criminal conduct, while numerous others teams players are allowed to continue playing for their squads after being convicted of actual criminal conduct,
It's not even that our QB was allowed to be intentionally assaulted on the field in a way that had nothing to do with playing football with out a suspension and only a paultry $25,000 fine;
...
It's also the absolute lack of calls for us.

AMEN... Godell has created a HUGE problem in that the Officials, who are supposed to be IMPARTIAL, are no longer calling games equally for both teams. If they are going to call something a foul, it HAS to be called a foul for BOTH teams. I watched the TOTALLY ABSURD holding flags thrown against Kemo and kept screaming at the TV since James Harrison gets held 5 times worse at least 20 times per game.

Godell needs to correct the imbalance that he has created by targeting certain players. The Steelers went, in 2 weeks, from being one of the least penalized teams in the league to being one of the most.

[SojuMaster Profile]

While at first I thought the ref had thrown the flag before Harrison even got there, but after carefully looking at it, you can see the ref start reaching for his flag the instant Harrison made contact with him. You will notice the ref's right hand is already reaching for the flag as soon as the hit is made. Just to illustrate how fast that play really went, the QB held on to the ball all of 1.25 seconds. (According to the CBS broadcasters) and within screen cap 3 and 4 the the ref is already reaching for his flag.

While the flag was not thrown BEFORE contact, you can clearly see the ref is extremely quick in throwing that flag against us.

These images where painfully screen capped using my NFL rewind account.

[PGHeaven Profile]

Hey pommah how are the crabcakes down at the inner harbor?


Thanks much to Sojumaster for the fine video work. To me it illustrates that ref had an itchy trigger finger. I have abslutely NO FUCKING DOUBT that Harrison has been redflagged. Even Suggs - who also likes the crabcakes at the inner harbor - believes that

James Harrison quote

It’s starting to look like it’s OK to cheat, it’s OK to fight, but if you hit somebody too hard, we’re going to fine you a whole bunch,” Harrison said. “Maybe it’s because I play for the Steelers, who knows?”


FUCK THE MOFOS!! ITS US VS THEM!!

[PGHeaven Profile]

By the By. That video also shows that it was the FRONT of Harrisons helmet that initially contacted Fitzies shoulder pads

LEGAL FUCKING HIT ALL THE WAY!

Ref apologists are closet Raven Fans

[Coke Oven Profile]

If Tomlin had any balls he could put a stop to all of this immediately. The next time this shit happens all he gotta do is walk his team off of the field and into the locker room. And stay there. The fans would take care of the refs and goodall. If only Tomlin had any balls.

[StillLifer Profile]

I'm bumping this thread considering the heinous hit on Heath Miller that wasn't even flagged. If that moron doesn't get fined after this game I'm going to LOSE IT!!!

[steelandblood Profile]

Don't forget that the hit that broke Ben's nose was, if I'm not mistaken, a head slap, albeit in the face. The headslap was banned in the 70's and they won't even call that?!

It's interesting to note that Harrison didn't get a bullshit flag tonight *after* all the press about comments from the Rooneys, Harrison, and Ward about the obvious double standards.

The problem is, even for the casual fan who doesn't want to see a dude laid out, that throwing flags left and right for essentially legal play jams up the flow of the game. I don't know anyone who enjoys a game more when flags are called left and right.

[SteelPower Profile]

NFL got some more explaining to do after last nights game. I am sure they will fine at least one hit if not the head slap to Ben also or there will just be an uprising of angry Black and Gold fans that will decend on them and every media outlet.

[PGHeaven Profile]

NFL has some SERIOUS splainin to do. I was listening to Rush Limbaugh on the EIB network today. In the miuddle of a schtick about the wimpification of America he suddenly began recounting the game last night - obviously excited about how tough a battle it was. he called it "a war of attrition" (Rush is a big Steeler fan btw) suddenly in the middle of his monologue Rush says

"Rothlisberger is hit twice in the head - no flag
Rothlis beger is driven to the turf - no flag
Miller is speared helmet to hemet asa defenseless receiver - no flag"


It is BULLSHIT that is going down. There is no way this is mere one sided incompetence. there is a plan at work at here. I say let the refs sodomize us. FUCK EM It is US against the world!