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New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby StillMill » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:31 am

Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades has been posted by Still Mill at Stillers.com.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby ILLSTILL » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:11 am

This game was only the second instance that I turned into a screaming raging maniac over the REFEREES (Indy 2005).

Sure, I've been mad. But this was red in the face and breaking shit mad.

But once all of that anger subsided, I realize this kind of frightens me. Especially the pick six rtp. That is one of the worst calls I've seen. Noone cares. Disturbing. Maybe this will be brought up in some way, but I doubt it.

We can't afford these horrible calls against an underrated Buffalo team, absolutely cannot.

At times, the coordinators have made this season very hard to watch. This makes things almost impossible.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby rifraff » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:41 am

Ahh, a good good ass thumpin. It will be a good week, better if Dolt Manning would have beat the Patsies and the Texans had a D. Im still hoarse from screamin at the refs most of the game.
The fan in me wants to answer the poll with yesterday was the real D, hahaha. Hope springs enternal, well off to Vegas.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby napnewman » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:15 am

A downer here is that both backs (34 and 33) scored TDs, but eased off and went HIGH as they crossed the goal line, and both had their jocks knocked off in the process. This is what I’ve been referring to all season long as a team-laden disease, in which Ben, Randle El, and now these 2 dumbfuks are easing off well before the goal line and then being content with just “getting there”, rather than blasting ahead.


I think you have to give Ben at least a B. I agree that his missed a bunch of throws, but his 2 runs - especially the TD run - were good. He juked a DB on the TD run and launched himself toward the goal line.

Was anyone else surprised there wasn't more of a melee after Ben got cold cocked? I really was expecting a huge brawl to break out.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby StillCanadian » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:09 am

Then there was the flag thrown on Harrison, which negated the Ike pick-6. Harrison came flashing in on a pass rush, then applied a textbook tackle on Campbell a millisecond after the pass was released. It clearly was not a late hit. But a flag was thrown by Goodell’s Gestapo, and the explanation was this gibberish: “Personal foul....hit the QB and landed with full body weight on top of him.” What fuking horseshit! There is no such rule. There is no such prohibition. There’s no way for Harrison to know exactly if Campbell has the ball, and there’s no way for Harrison, under the laws of physics of planet Earth, to not land with his “full body weight” atop the QB. This is a completely phantom call that is total bullshit.

We wonder why Harrison ponders retirement! The flow of all NFL games are becoming unbearable to watch. The Adolph regime will cost the Steelers late in the season, or in the Play-offs....wait and see....

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby IronCity__Man » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:53 am

Mill covered my only commet but wanted to reiterate - that field is absolutely horrible. I give it an F. I heard the Raiders filed a protest before the game. I would shift Harrison's sack from Dong to Heinz. That turf ate Campbell's foot.

I am still pissed that the league did not fine NE's Sanders for his hit on Hines. Goes well with the horrible calls again yesterday.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby Tonydesal » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:53 am

As usual, an excellent recap of the game. 8-)

One note though, you said "His KOs were mostly shallow, although he did rocket one to the -8 in the 4Q." This was after a 15 yard penalty on Oak. on the previous play, and therefore should have been blasted through the uprights, not just 8 yards deep. Short of less paper towel dispenser damage, I don't see anything changing in Pgh with the new kicker.

As far as the officiating, :sufu: , there has got to be something done about this, someone on that crew needs to be fired. If a player blatantly breaks a rule, he is fined (Harrison) or even ejected (Se-ya-more), but these asshole zebras get to keep going with no repercussions? Pathetic dog shit.

We need to start a protest. :suahhbs: :suahhbs: :supissed: :supissed: :suahhbs: :suahhbs:

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby Tonydesal » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:11 pm

Oh, and one more thing, which I guess amid all the ref bullshit, this got lost.


On the SECOND PLAY of the game, we almost had to call a time out or get flagged for delay of game. ON THE SECOND PLAY OF THE GAME!!!!!

Fuk BA! :sufu:

What a game plan. ONE FUKING PLAY! Are you kidding me?!?

How do you not have the second play of the game ready?

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby Still CA Still » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:45 pm

What's more surprising about the terrible officiating is the complete lack of any commentary from NFL analysts. I kept waiting for something from the Sunday night crew commenting on phantom and totally made-up calls but nothing. Still less from the ESPN shills. Finally, I wish Tomlin would have sacked up and commented during his presser; fines be damned. The Harrison hit on Campbell and the Ike flag for P.I. down the sideline were fabricated and totally baseless; this has got to stop.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby rwdavis2 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:53 pm

Sorry, Mill, you're wrong about the Harrison hit.

Here's the relevant section in the rule book on Harrison's hit under the section Unnecessary Acts Against Passer:

(2) A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as
“stuffing” a passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the
passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within
the one-step limitation provided for in (1) above. When tackling a passer who is in a virtually
defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player
must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down and land on top of him with all or most
of the defender’s weight.
Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap up or cradle the
passer with the defensive player’s arms.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby pinpon » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:57 pm

Great job as usual Mill. One quick note, seems as if you missed the usual Shitpulveda touch back into the EZ. It wouldn't be a game without one. Good to see Brown and Sanders developing as receivers. Now we just need to put ARE out to pasture. Whatever he had, he left in Washington, D.C.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby IronCity__Man » Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:39 pm

Finally, Finally, we run a short crossing route to Mikey Wallace. I have been waiting for this for two years. Steve Smith, Deshaun Jackson, Johnny Knox and the remainder of the NFL speedsters are targeted this way 5 times a game. No one can cover a speedster coming all the way across the field, LB or DB. Arians sucks but maybe it dawned on him - oh, never thought of that before. Look, a 7 yard pass to a dude with blazing speed goes for a TD. Better tuck that one away for the playoffs, may come in handy.
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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby specialteamsplease » Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:40 pm

the ROONEY'S have to say something about the circus officiating that is taking place. What is this the WWF? The field is unacceptable... It is however the Rooney's job not Tomlin's to comment on officiating. I think the grades are accurate except maybe for BR. He was playing with a constantly revolving oline on a field that is worse than anything at any level. overcame 160 something yards of penalties and still managed to blow out a team on a 3 game win streak. come on give em a little slack.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby specialteamsplease » Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:51 pm

i think mendenhall fumbled because he was simply gassed and should have been taken out of the game before that drive. He is a great runner that makes something out of literally nothing every single time. Brown was prob deactivated earlier in the season because he did not know how to run the complicated nfl timing patterns. takes time for some. Despite the major officiating hurdle I thought that the team and the coaching staff including DL kept the team very focused and determined to make big plays. I think Suisham might not boom kicks into the endzone but I did notice that does have better hang time on his kicks than reed that was noticeable in the successful coverage. You ever think that the team is reserving certain weapons such as brown even certain starters and defensive schemes for later in the season?

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby StillMill » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:15 pm

rwdavis2 wrote:Sorry, Mill, you're wrong about the Harrison hit.

Here's the relevant section in the rule book on Harrison's hit under the section Unnecessary Acts Against Passer:

(2) A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as
“stuffing” a passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the
passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within
the one-step limitation provided for in (1) above. When tackling a passer who is in a virtually
defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player
must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down and land on top of him with all or most
of the defender’s weight.
Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap up or cradle the
passer with the defensive player’s arms.


Sorry, Davis. I was, and am, well aware of the rule. The ref very clearly stated, "..."with the full weight of his body." Harrison had his arms WRAPPED UP around Cambell's lower legs, which is what the rule that you cited, SAYS to do. And he didn't come close to having "the full weight of his body" slamming atop Cambell. It was a phanto, chickenshit call made by a chickenshit ref.

Fuk Adolf Goodell

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby IronCity__Man » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:26 pm

Mill is right - Harrison lands with only his left shoulder and some of his upper rib cage on him. Bad call but not as bad as some of the others. I am awaiting the NFL apology letter before thanksgiving. The NFL sends those out freely when the team suffering the bad calls wins versus loses so the NFL can avoid full controversey.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby rwdavis2 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:46 pm

From the video I saw of the hit, it seemed that Harrison landed directly on top of Campbell and his right arm appeared to try and stop the momentum but the left did not. I'm sure Campbell laying on the ground for an extra few seconds helped with the flag.

I work with the line judge that worked the Raiders game and he said that call could have gone either way. He's going to get back to me after he reviews the video of the Clark "helmet-to-helmet". Also mentioned that it appeared that Ben temporarily had his jaw dislocated and he's surprised Seymore was not suspended.

The real problem is that the refs are keeping too close an eye on Harrison (and Steelers) and the calls between crews are inconsistent at best.
BD

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby m1k3 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:03 pm

rwdavis2 wrote:From the video I saw of the hit, it seemed that Harrison landed directly on top of Campbell and his right arm appeared to try and stop the momentum but the left did not. I'm sure Campbell laying on the ground for an extra few seconds helped with the flag.

I work with the line judge that worked the Raiders game and he said that call could have gone either way. He's going to get back to me after he reviews the video of the Clark "helmet-to-helmet". Also mentioned that it appeared that Ben temporarily had his jaw dislocated and he's surprised Seymore was not suspended.

The real problem is that the refs are keeping too close an eye on Harrison (and Steelers) and the calls between crews are inconsistent at best.
BD


"Could have gone either way" ?

Is he serious? I haven't talked to a single football fan (yes, even non-Steelers fans) that thinks that call was anything but total horseshit.

Even Rich Gannon said yesterday on Sirius NFL Radio that he thinks some of these calls on the Steelers the past several weeks are very suspicious.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby IronCity__Man » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:39 pm

rwdavis2 wrote:The real problem is that the refs are keeping too close an eye on Harrison (and Steelers) and the calls between crews are inconsistent at best.
BD


I wish they would call more of those throat holds in that case.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Raidas Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby StillLoyal » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:21 am

Mill-
Why don't you man up and admit you were wrong.
You knew about the rule? Really? And your objection was that Harrison didn't land with his full weight? Really?

But a flag was thrown by Goodell’s Gestapo, and the explanation was this gibberish: “Personal foul....hit the QB and landed with full body weight on top of him.” What fuking horseshit! There is no such rule. There is no such prohibition. There’s no way for Harrison to know exactly if Campbell has the ball, and there’s no way for Harrison, under the laws of physics of planet Earth, to not land with his “full body weight” atop the QB. This is a completely phantom call that is total bullshit.

That was you. Does that sound like you understood the rule book?
Look, I happen to agree that it was a lousy call, and I'm also concerned that the Steelers and especially Harrison are being unfairly targeted. But "could have gone either way" sounds about right to me.

I'm usually on your case for being overly negative (Like giving BR a C for this one), but this time I'm calling you out on an unadulterated lie.

Man enough to respond?

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