View topic - Cutting Reed/Signing Suisham; Good Move Or Bad?

[Steelers76 Profile]

Do you think Reed was just going through a rough patch and his release was premature, or was it time he got the hook? If so, was signing Shaun Suisham the best alternative for the job, or do you feel there was someone else out there that could do a better job? Discuss....

[SteelThatDon'tRust Profile]

Unless Reed's having insurmountable personal problems that are going to keep him from getting back on track, the move is horrendously stupid and short sided. He's in the top 10, I say TOP 10 most accurate of all time and the second leading all time scorer for the team. SECOND. So something extremely bothersome behind the scenes better be going on because you don't piss away a kicker with his history because of his numbers thus far this season. IMO.

[NOVAStiller Profile]

Unless Reed's having insurmountable personal problems that are going to keep him from getting back on track, the move is horrendously stupid and short sided. He's in the top 10, I say TOP 10 most accurate of all time and the second leading all time scorer for the team. SECOND. So something extremely bothersome behind the scenes better be going on because you don't piss away a kicker with his history because of his numbers thus far this season. IMO.

Ditto!

[OhioSteelerFan Profile]

I'm thinking there's a reason Suisham is available midway through the season. And I doubt it's because he was holding out for a better contract. In my opinionit's not one of the better moves the Stillers have made. NE didn't pound the Stillers' dick in the dirt because of Reed's missed FG.

[madmoney125 Profile]

Hopefully a message to the team. Hey you better start playing better because you are replaceable? That goes for coordinators too.

[LenSherwood Profile]

This move is beyond stupid. I live in DC and saw that Shashuan blow easy kicks here. WTF? WTF? Incredible. Sign a proven choker when you have playoff hopes. A proven choker trying to kick in a stadium like Heinz field? WTF?? Send a message to the team-- are you fuking kidding? A message by signing a loser like this? It wreaks of giving up Holmes for nothing; how is that working out? Incredible. Reed did not play great this weekend, but who played great on Sunday? Fuking no one. Cut Big Ben too. He has been sucking and talk about personal problems... And come crunch time many games just might come down to field goals in the winter in Pittsburgh don't you think? Well that assumes that the Steeler defense won't fuking give up 39 points. No there is no upside to this move.

[LenSherwood Profile]

Fellas, read this and then Tomlin's quote:

Since the Steelers cut Suisham after he spent his first NFL training camp with them in 2005, he has been with the Cowboys, San Francisco 49ers, the Redskins, back to the Cowboys, to the Cleveland Browns for one month before camp this summer, and to the St. Louis Rams, who cut him after four days in August. He was out of work until the Steelers signed him to a one-year contract Tuesday after he kicked for them at Heinz Field.

"We like his resume," Tomlin said.

In fuking credible. Tomlin has become a comedian. We like his resume?? The part where he chokes repeatedly in the clutch

[napnewman Profile]

Glad to see I'm not alone in thinking this is a stupid move. Reed didn't help himself with his behavior, but I'll be surprised if Suisham comes near a 70% accuracy mark at Heinz - particularly this time of year. Why not wait until next year and bring in some serious talent?

[Pommah Profile]

Reed's bad-mouthing the field was the last straw. His shit list was pretty long. A few years ago the field was an issue, a few players were bitchin', the papers were writing about it, etc. Then the edict came down, we're keeping the grass field, end of discussion. Skippy brings it up again as a lame excuse. You cannot go against the organization's mandates and not expect repercussions. Just like Holmes. The continuing pot busts, the naked pics on the internet, you just can't flout the organization's ethos. You start allowing that, and pretty soon we're the Bungles.

If Skippy had said, "I misjudged the conditions and slipped. I screwed up. I'm not playing up to expectations this year and that will change," he would still be on the team. Management did the right thing here.

[IronCity__Man Profile]

something needed to happen with out kicker. Suisham not the answer but where were all the Reed defenders two weeks ago. I have been reading negative feedback on his kickoffs and his important misses the past two seasons on this site.

"We like his resume," Tomlin said.

"I think Tomlin gots to go," IronCity_Man said.

[OhioSteelerFan Profile]

Don't be surprised to see the Bungals pick up Reed. They signed Aaron Pettrey (a rookie who was released by Detroit in the preseason) after Nugent was injured.
"The scouting report on Pettrey is that he is great at kickoffs but inconsistent on field goals. He was 29 of 39 over his career at Ohio State but was 14 of 20 last year including 6 of 10 inside 40 yards."
I would take Reed over Pettrey any day.

[stillcello Profile]

If Suisham plays to his normal ability, allowing for field conditions, he will outperform Reed's current level of play. There has been no indication of Reed coming out of his slump and returning to his form. How many short/crucial kicks does he have to miss this year? Of course we should try and get a better kicker next year than Suisham, but for now, this was the right move in my opinion.

As for Holmes, Reed, Ben.... it's my theory that they kept ben and not holmes/reed because it pretty darn hard to come by QBs that win super bowls for you.... if we had a Ben-caliber player in 1995, 1997, and 2001...who knows?... we could have up to 3 more rings......

the fact is that as good as Holmes is, Ben is harder to replace. All that being said, they did try and get Sam Bradford from STL (well, the #1 pick anyway) but STL wouldn't bite.

Finally, are you guys really complaining about this FREE site going down? ... at least there is not a PLUS section that you have to pay for!

[PGHeaven Profile]

Ron Cook can be on the mark or totally off the mark. His latest article manages to DO BOTH! LOL! He starts out by chastising Tomlin for cutting Reed than spends the remaining 3/4 of the article listing all the points explaining EXACTLY why Tomlin fired Reed. A previous poster said if Skippy would have handled the interview better he would still be here. Hard to tell now.

Here is one more reason no one has mentioned. Jeffs tackling attempts are the hands down lamest gayest most embarrassing in NFL history. I just bet that has irked Tomlin all along. He expects every Steeler to be physical. Especially when you watch Sepulveda CRUSH people on returns

Jeff has been in decline in every aspect of the game and how he interacts with the media the fans and perhaps management and coaches.

By the way Cello, free doesnt mean it has to be down every other damned week

[NOVAStiller Profile]

something needed to happen with out kicker. Suisham not the answer but where were all the Reed defenders two weeks ago. I have been reading negative feedback on his kickoffs and his important misses the past two seasons on this site.

IC-Man -

I was defending Reed just last week... see the "Unfair Criticism of Jeff Reed" thread. Funny how the old saying "be careful what you wish for" rings true in this case. How many so-called fans are now so critical of Reed's firing? Just goes to show most people on these boards have no idea what they're talking about. Most are just dumb Monday morning quarterback "hunkies" from the 'Burgh!

[LenSherwood Profile]

If Suisham plays to his normal ability, allowing for field conditions,

If he plays to his ability he will choke on important field goals- see his resume that Tomlin likes. Three missed FG in a playoff game, choked on a game winner in DC. And those weren't at Heinz field, shitty grass, wind, cold and all..

Yes Reed hasn't played great this year, but now isn't the time to bring in this guy. If you could have found someone better, OK cut Reed's stupid ass. But Suisham as your only option now?

I do have do agree though with the comment that Reed was the worst tackler in the NFL though--he has some highlight pussy attempts for sure.

[ballhair Profile]

Tomlin is a jackoff. The stillers won the SB in 2008 not because of him but in spite of him.
Big Ben is a jackoff. Another off season incident with the big lump of shit and another season of uninspired play from him and the whole team. Here is where the downward spiral starts, but hey all is good. Everyone is still getting their benjamin's.

[relictele Profile]

The Rooneys have proven that they aren't quite as thin-skinned as their fellow owners but for some reason they go full-tilt Captain Queeg whenever someone - anyone - criticizes the Heinz Field turf which, as we all know, has been a mess from Day One. It's not even their stadium in terms of ownership so why are they so defensive?

Reed was as entitled as anyone to complain about it but he didn't really raise a stink until this most recent game and if you watch the video of his missed kick he clearly has his plant foot in a large loose patch. Imagine trying to hit a golf ball while standing on a sheet of ice and you've got a similar scenario.

PG excerpt: "The Steelers must now pay that salary, and Reed is an unrestricted free agent."

Credit Reed for not panicking and taking the first offer(s) that came around. The upshot of this week is that the Steelers are on the hook for his salary AND Reed has the luxury of time - he may not need to sign until next summer and can catch teams when they are most in need i.e. he can raise his value by doing absolutely nothing. Agents are easy targets but it seems that Reed has received some very good advice from his.

Speaking of golf, kickers are like golfers in that they are often very streaky and unable to explain why they can't miss - or can't make. Reed had the mental toughness to get through rough patches in the past and that would have served him and the team well in the future especially, of course, the playoffs.

The new guy is a Band-Aid at best and I will state for the record that I wouldn't be surprised to see Reed back in black and gold prior to year's end.

[PGHeaven Profile]

No, Reed wont be back in black & gold this year. Either will Sanbluntio. They fired Skippy for more than just his shitty kicking. They fired him because he has morphed into a troll

[IronCity__Man Profile]

I was surprised to hear that Reed did not accept offers from any other teams. But then I heard the report last night that he has been in a bout of deep depression over the last few months. He tried to hang himself Thursday night but when he went to kick the chair out from underneath of him and missed so the attempt failed. Sorry, had to do it.