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Do the analysts on this site know the other team plans, too?

Postby Jeemie » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:16 pm

I see both resident analysts on this board didn't miss a chance to bash Arians for his "brain-dead game plan", berating him for calling "no rollouts, no waggles, etc".

Maybe our resident analysts didn't look at at Atlanta Falcons' defense and notice that often there was a spy...sometimes even TWO...on Dixon for a lot of the game?

So that all those run-pass plays they were talking about WOULDN'T HAVE WORKED?

Mill complains of the 4-14 third down conversions and attributes that to Arians' "brain-dead" game-planning.

Gee...really?

I didn't know Arians designed four pass plays where the QB is isntructed to throw the ball into the ground in front of receivers that are WIDE OPEN at the sticks (that sends the conversion rate to 8-14). What a dumb-fuck!

I didn't know Arians designed a running play on 3rd-short where Issac Redman is instructed to cut AWAY from the hole the lead blocker and linemen have opened up for him, and instead run into a pile of bodies on the other side, and thus get stopped short (that would make the conversion ratio 9-14).

And I suppose the play on that beautiful pass to El on the sidelines was designed to have El jump up for NO REASON WHATSOEVER, and thus allowed himself to get forced OOB (that makes it 10-14).

What an idiot Arians is for designing poor execution into all his playcalls!

What a chump!

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Re: Do the analysts on this site know the other team plans, too?

Postby Steel Holiday » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:43 pm

Dixon's number one job as the quarterback right now has to be no turnovers.

I didn't appreciate how committed the Falcons were in preventing the scramble. I did however notice that DD looked poor on some of his throws. He was unsure of himself and had concern in where he was going to deliver the ball. That lack of confidence probably came from not wanting to turn the ball over; job #1. A guy who is that prudent in the pocket is going to take sacks. Sacks equate to field positioning, and that could mean less plays for the Pittsburgh defense to make something happen.

The play calling looked good to me overall. :| Dixon had some guys open, but just missed them. I'm not going to fault Arians for not forcing roll outs if the opponent is constantly showing a perimeter defense. There is a difference in not forcing something, and not giving up on it though. There has to be at least 2 or 3 roll out passes that the team feels comfortable with... I'd target Miller on a throw back screen if the linebackers are overly committed to stopping the QB rush. Roll him quickly one way, and throw a pass behind the LOS the other.

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Re: Do the analysts on this site know the other team plans, too?

Postby Jeemie » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:58 pm

IIRC, the very first pass was a rollout.

And Dixon scrambled on several passes in the second half as well.

The idea the offense struggled because of Arians' "piss-poor play-calling" is ludicrous.

The offense struggled because Dixon missed throws.

He got better in H2, but the failures on offense were mostly on execution.

There were only a couple of head-scratchers. The sprint-draw using slow-as-shit Mewelde Moore was one. There were a couple of ill-advised pass calls as well.

But all-in-all, Arians called a good game.

This "Arians is to blame" shit by people who have an agenda really has to stop if the people on this site want to regain any credibility they may once have had.

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Re: Do the analysts on this site know the other team plans, too?

Postby IronCity__Man » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:44 pm

Jeemie - don't forget "Dullard" Dick's horrible coverage skills in the 4th quarter that allowed A. Gonzalez to get open for a FG. Lebeau then opted to stay on the sideline and make calls that forced an interception and a 6 and out in overtime.

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Postby SoCal Stiller » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:36 pm

Sorry, but I think you are way off base on this one. While I did see outside presence by the Falcons, it does not mean you completely adjust your offensive game plan like Dan Fouts is standing back there. Dixon's strengths are throwing outside the pocket, running, and making defenders miss. He is not ready to stand in the pocket like Dan Fouts & read coverages effectively yet, so we must play these next 4 games to his strengths. It's not like we're trying to develop a starting QB for the future, we're just trying to win the next 4 games by whatever means necessary. To me, that means you run DD's ass off all game long and after that, you run it some more! Any OC worth a shit would have little problem calling plays to neutralize their outside presence and thus play to DD's strengths.

You talk about turnovers? To me it's much more risky to leave him in the pocket than it is to roll him out of there as evidenced by his pick and nearly 2 others! Dude just does not have the vision and comfort to pass out of the pocket yet.

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Re: Do the analysts on this site know the other team plans, too?

Postby No l Gravity l » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:14 pm

It was Jason Gildongs fault

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Re: Do the analysts on this site know the other team plans, too?

Postby Steel Holiday » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:59 pm

IronCity__Man wrote:Jeemie - don't forget "Dullard" Dick's horrible coverage skills in the 4th quarter that allowed A. Gonzalez to get open for a FG. Lebeau then opted to stay on the sideline and make calls that forced an interception and a 6 and out in overtime.


Is that sarcasm I detect :?:

Dick definitely baited Matty "Ice" on the interception. Ryan had to believe the Steelers were in a cover two w/safeties over the top. Both Polamalu and Lebeau deserve a gold star for that play. :subngtowl:

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Re: Do the analysts on this site know the other team plans, too?

Postby Jeemie » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:16 pm

SoCal Stiller wrote:Sorry, but I think you are way off base on this one. While I did see outside presence by the Falcons, it does not mean you completely adjust your offensive game plan like Dan Fouts is standing back there. Dixon's strengths are throwing outside the pocket, running, and making defenders miss. He is not ready to stand in the pocket like Dan Fouts & read coverages effectively yet, so we must play these next 4 games to his strengths. It's not like we're trying to develop a starting QB for the future, we're just trying to win the next 4 games by whatever means necessary. To me, that means you run DD's ass off all game long and after that, you run it some more! Any OC worth a shit would have little problem calling plays to neutralize their outside presence and thus play to DD's strengths.

You talk about turnovers? To me it's much more risky to leave him in the pocket than it is to roll him out of there as evidenced by his pick and nearly 2 others! Dude just does not have the vision and comfort to pass out of the pocket yet.


Dixon himself said there was little room for him to run- Falcons had him defensed.

No...you are right...you don't have to completely adjust to what the defense is doing...you can try and dictate.

But the game plan was sound on Sunday. Dixon hits a couple of those EASY passes...that even he should make...and the Steelers turn some of those FG/near FG drives into TD drives.

I will agree that, with Lefty coming back, and with only two-and-a-half weeks until Ben's return, that it would be nice to see some designed runs for Dixon this week.

But it wasn't needed and would have been ineffective against Atlanta.

People are blaming Arians just to blame Arians.

Too often people here blame the coaches when execution is at fault.

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