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Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby NJSteel27 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:56 am

Anyone watch the Packers-Cardinals playoff game yesterday?

In OT there was a QB fumble, caused by a DB blitzing on the play.
The DB (who was torched all game) clearly not only had a hand to the face of the QB, but he also had a grasp of his facemask.
No penalty was called.
The fumble got run in for a TD and the game was over.

Since there is an automatic review of all TD's in OT, why wasn't this one?

Another case of refs NOT SEEING the obvious.
Seems like they shine a blind eye on things, like all the holding on James Harrison.

I'm just glad that it wasn't the manner in which the Steelers season ended!

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Postby frankensmith91 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:11 pm

yep, crappy finish to an otherwise really exciting game. i might be biased though cause i sorta always liked the pack

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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby jaeger » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:25 pm

NJSteel27 wrote:Anyone watch the Packers-Cardinals playoff game yesterday?

Since there is an automatic review of all TD's in OT, why wasn't this one?



Oh, I don't know, maybe because THE BALL NEVER HIT THE GROUND? :roll:

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Postby SojuMaster » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:32 pm

NJSteel27 wrote:Anyone watch the Packers-Cardinals playoff game yesterday?

In OT there was a QB fumble, caused by a DB blitzing on the play.
The DB (who was torched all game) clearly not only had a hand to the face of the QB, but he also had a grasp of his facemask.
No penalty was called.
The fumble got run in for a TD and the game was over.

Since there is an automatic review of all TD's in OT, why wasn't this one?

Another case of refs NOT SEEING the obvious.
Seems like they shine a blind eye on things, like all the holding on James Harrison.

I'm just glad that it wasn't the manner in which the Steelers season ended!


While the facemask/hands to the face should have been called, penalties (or non-calls) are not reversable with a review.

I agree it was a crappy ending to a great game. Kind of ironic that a game that was void of any type of defense ended on a defensive score.

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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby No l Gravity l » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:34 pm

Q: Wah wah wah?
A: :roll:

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Postby Coke Oven » Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:34 am

"Another case of refs NOT SEEING the obvious.
Seems like they shine a blind eye on things, like all the holding on James Harrison."

The nfl is to football as the WWE is to wrestling.

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Postby SoCal Stiller » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:43 pm

The ages and athleticism of the refs needs to be much closer to the age of the players if we are to see any significant improvements. Most of these guys are fat, overpaid, overweight, part-timers who pose as lawyers when not waddling down the sidelines (with the exception of Hoccoli). The are a ton of people out there looking for work right now, yet the NFL uses wealthy freakin' wannabe part-time lawyers who look like they should be greeters at the Wal-mart entrance. I just don't get why the zebras cannot be full-time 30 or 40 somethings who could actually pass a Jr High fitness test.

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Postby arrestee » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:06 pm

This is only marginally related, but I did feel some sympathy for Packer fans watching their much-vaunted defense get trashed by the Cards. From experience with the Steelers, it's bad enough when your team has huge weaknesses and you know it, but it's much more frustrating when the blow-hards on tv keep talking about what a bunch of studs they are and how shut-down the secondary is, and how amazing the blitzes are. Makes you want to puke.

Sorry, Packers guys. Cya next year.

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Postby Jeemie » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:44 pm

Unfortunately, on this particular play, the official in charge of making the call on the facemask was also the official watching the ball to see if it was a fumble or pass.

Unfortunate, but that's how it is.

And, to be quite honest, it's the way it's always been.

It's not so much the "speed of the game" that's causing more officials to make errors, it's that technology has gotten so good that we can go back and see more of the errors that were always being made.

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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby steelcitymetal » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:51 pm

it's obviously a conspiracy.

did you see how rodgers kicked the ball so it would stay in the air for an interception? he was obviously paid off to throw the game.
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Postby frankensmith91 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:41 pm

steelcitymetal wrote:it's obviously a conspiracy.

did you see how rodgers kicked the ball so it would stay in the air for an interception? he was obviously paid off to throw the game.


it looked to me like he was trying to bounce the ball back to himself, sometimes nerves take over in that situation

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Postby StillDodger » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:09 am

The Steelers didn't get screwed, the Steelers screwed themselves............

Cards fans were whining last year over missed calls in the SB.........

Heck, I know a Clowns fan who still can't get over that game-winning FG by the Broncos way back in the 1986 AFC Championship Game!! He still claims that kick was "wide left"........ (There's even a YouTube on this..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2O7bDqMO0I )

At least the Pack team itself seems to have gotten over it.
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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby rick723 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:09 pm

SojuMaster wrote:
NJSteel27 wrote:Anyone watch the Packers-Cardinals playoff game yesterday?

In OT there was a QB fumble, caused by a DB blitzing on the play.
The DB (who was torched all game) clearly not only had a hand to the face of the QB, but he also had a grasp of his facemask.
No penalty was called.
The fumble got run in for a TD and the game was over.

Since there is an automatic review of all TD's in OT, why wasn't this one?

Another case of refs NOT SEEING the obvious.
Seems like they shine a blind eye on things, like all the holding on James Harrison.

I'm just glad that it wasn't the manner in which the Steelers season ended!


While the facemask/hands to the face should have been called, penalties (or non-calls) are not reversable with a review.

I agree it was a crappy ending to a great game. Kind of ironic that a game that was void of any type of defense ended on a defensive score.

Actually I was argueing with the cards fans on their site. They pointed out that you can touch face masks. If the ref feels it was unintentional and you didn't jerk it, No foul. I thought that rule sucks cause we got called for a few incidentals too. The explaination was you touch a facemask you get 15 yards, Guess that's only if you wear black n gold. See rule 5
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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby anthonyc20 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:20 pm

frankensmith91 wrote:yep, crappy finish to an otherwise really exciting game. i might be biased though cause i sorta always liked the pack


fuck that, go steelers or go home

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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby frankensmith91 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:28 pm

anthonyc20 wrote:
frankensmith91 wrote:yep, crappy finish to an otherwise really exciting game. i might be biased though cause i sorta always liked the pack


fuck that, go steelers or go home


so you're saying if the steelers aren't playing don't watch football at all? just because i'm a steelers fan doesn't mean i can't be a fan of the game itself.

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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby steelcitymetal » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:49 am

frankensmith91 wrote:
anthonyc20 wrote:
frankensmith91 wrote:yep, crappy finish to an otherwise really exciting game. i might be biased though cause i sorta always liked the pack


fuck that, go steelers or go home


so you're saying if the steelers aren't playing don't watch football at all? just because i'm a steelers fan doesn't mean i can't be a fan of the game itself.

he didn't say it just because you watched the game. we all watched the game.

he said it because you said "i sorta like the packers".
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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby frankensmith91 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:12 am

fuck that, go steelers or go home

so you're saying if the steelers aren't playing don't watch football at all? just because i'm a steelers fan doesn't mean i can't be a fan of the game itself.

he didn't say it just because you watched the game. we all watched the game.

he said it because you said "i sorta like the packers".


the girl im banging is a packers fan, and they aren't a division or conference rival. it is what it is ;)

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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby steelcitymetal » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:09 pm

frankensmith91 wrote:the girl im banging is a packers fan, and they aren't a division or conference rival. it is what it is ;)

yeah, i don't see a problem with it.

i just squint and pretend it's pittsburgh. (same with iowa.)

althought i was happy to see them lose because of that packers douchebag who came on here
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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby anthonyc20 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:53 pm

i actually don't watch too much NFL if the Steelers aren't involved. I'm a huge fan of football (I watch college football all saturday) but I hate other NFL teams so much I generally avoid games unless its MNF, playoffs, SB, etc. :subngtowl:

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Re: Seems like Steelers arent the only ones who get screwed

Postby steelcitymetal » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:19 pm

Mike Pereira (VP of Officiating) discusses the end of the Packers-Cardinals game on NFLN's Official Review

he calls it an incidental grab, no twisting or pulling of mask.

and ref was probably following the ball, to watch for incomplete or fumble, since the ball came loose before the tackle.

also, pereira talked to the refs and they said that had the ball hit the ground, and the play went under review, they would have left it as called on the field.
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