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If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby Steelers76 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:56 pm

I really would like to see plays drawn up that feature Dennis Dixson in Wildcat, WR, Razzle-Dazzle, etc. Sort of like Kordell Stewart circa 1995, or Michael Prick in Philly this season. This guy is too talented to just idle on the bench at 3rd string. Plus, I think it would keeping opposing defenses guessing as to what is coming next. Agree/Disagree?

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Postby Coke Oven » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:54 am

"This guy is too talented to just idle on the bench at 3rd string."

Based on what? I haven't seen this so called talent and I've seen the same games that you have. Is it the same sort of talent that Sweed has? The wishful thinking kind?

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby Pommah » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:53 am

Ben is still young, possibly another good 10 years out of him, if he can keep from getting hurt.

Dixon was a draft-day risk, not unlike Mendenhall and Sweed, where there draft stock declined due to Senior-Year injury. Mendenhall worked out, Sweed (so far) hasn't. Hey, it was a risk.

Dixon looked good enough to me that if we get him more playing time, and he continues to perform, some stupid team will pay way too much for him, in terms of a low draft pick or two. We don't need an up-and-comer at QB; we have Ben. For backup for Ben we want a veteran who can step in and perform during the numerous times that Ben is out due to his style of play, and keep us in the playoff hunt. We don't need to train a new QB because it's not realistic that we'll need him anytime soon.

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby LambertoCincoOcho » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:57 am

Forget Batch we need to start developing another QB. Batch is old and fragile he's had a plethora of injuries in which each have caused him to miss extended time. Dixon would make a great Slash. I bet he's got better hands than Sweed. :supimpin:

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby Steelers76 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:34 am

LambertoCincoOcho wrote:Forget Batch we need to start developing another QB. Batch is old and fragile he's had a plethora of injuries in which each have caused him to miss extended time. Dixon would make a great Slash. I bet he's got better hands than Sweed. :supimpin:


Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I have no allusions that he will overtake Big Ben for Starting QB. If he's on the roster for next year, they may as well use use him and try and get the most they can for him. What's the alternative? Him sitting on the sideline with his finger up his ass? They didn't draft him to sit around on the bench.

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby AZ Steel » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:55 pm

Steelers76 wrote:
LambertoCincoOcho wrote:Forget Batch we need to start developing another QB. Batch is old and fragile he's had a plethora of injuries in which each have caused him to miss extended time. Dixon would make a great Slash. I bet he's got better hands than Sweed. :supimpin:


Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I have no allusions that he will overtake Big Ben for Starting QB. If he's on the roster for next year, they may as well use use him and try and get the most they can for him. What's the alternative? Him sitting on the sideline with his finger up his ass? They didn't draft him to sit around on the bench.


Steelers76, I have to agree. This offense needs a spark plug. Kordell was a better slash than he was a QB (perhaps the fault of lousy coaching) and I think Dixon could be a great slash/wildcat player as well. It comes down to utilizing the talent you have on the team and creating plays that showcase player’s abilities. It also keeps offenses off balance and guessing. Both concepts that are completely foreign to Bunghole Arians.

For Dixon to be utilized this way, Bunghole Arians needs to be shown the door. Of course, that needs to happen no matter what.

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby Jeemie » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:12 pm

It's true what they say- the backup QB is always the favorite player on the team.

You guys were definitely watching a different Ravens' game than I watched.

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Postby Steelers76 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:37 pm

Jeemie wrote:It's true what they say- the backup QB is always the favorite player on the team.

You guys were definitely watching a different Ravens' game than I watched.


I guess we were. The game I saw was Dixson,(despite asshole Arians drawing up almost no plays that called to his streghts), almost beat The Ratbirds on the road in his first pro start.(Which he would have if The D held up it's end.) Again, what's the alternative with Dixson? Just let his ass collect splinters on the bench? Yeah, that's much better.

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby Coke Oven » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:30 am

"Again, what's the alternative with Dixson? Just let his ass collect splinters on the bench? Yeah, that's much better."

Well no, another alternative would be to trade him to try to fill a real need. Trade Sweed too.

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby Jeemie » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:33 am

Steelers76 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:It's true what they say- the backup QB is always the favorite player on the team.

You guys were definitely watching a different Ravens' game than I watched.


I guess we were. The game I saw was Dixson,(despite asshole Arians drawing up almost no plays that called to his streghts), almost beat The Ratbirds on the road in his first pro start.(Which he would have if The D held up it's end.) Again, what's the alternative with Dixson? Just let his ass collect splinters on the bench? Yeah, that's much better.


Yes- the Steelers almost beat the ratbirds, HOWEVER...

...Dixon showed hardly ANYTHING that makes it worthwhile for him to take snaps away from Ben

...everyone would know that if Dixon came in, he wouldn't be a threat to pass, so they would guard against him running.

...teams are wise to the Wildcat. Only Miami runs it with any success (and with Dixon, it's not really the Wildcat anyway- it's just another QB coming in taking snaps from Ben).

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby Steelers76 » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:58 pm

Dixson is a QB by trade, so how would it be automatically assumed he "wouldn't be a threat to pass", and that defenses would just stack the line? Defenses would not know what he's going to do when he comes in the game under Center, thus opening up a whole new dimension on Offense. Also, he'd hardly be taking snaps away from Ben. When Prick has replaced McNabb several times a game, It doesn't seem to be hurting their O or the team. But maybe they should keep doing the same old thing on Offense. It's really worked wonders for them this season.

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby No l Gravity l » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:33 am

Yeah you guys are right. Dixon almost beat the Ravens. That's why I seemed to be more worried when we had the ball on offense.

Come on guys, he threw for 140 yards. Ben has routinely done that in the first quarter of nearly every game this year. If we use the wildcat, I want Mendenhall taking the direct snap with extra blockers.

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby Still CA Still » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:50 pm

The Baltimore game sealed Charlie's fate; he will not be around next year or will be the #3. Dixon is too good of an athlete to remain inactive and with roster spots at a premium, you need all the playmakers you can get. I watched Dixon and his brilliant career here in the Pac 10; he cand o a lot of good things if only the OC had a clue.

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby ballhair » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:18 pm

Dixon has a better arm than Ben.
The Steelers will only be as successful as Big Ben is!

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Re: If We Get A New O.C., and Batch Is Healthy Next Season....

Postby mckeesrockstheburg » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:27 pm

Dixon is athletic and can move. Roll him out, give him pitch options, just let him move with the damn ball. We ALL saw what happens when D's have to respect the run option. WHY DID KORDELL END UP SUCKING WIND? Because our "coaches" made him a pocket guy, just like Ben is now. Look familiar? Granted, DD is not as "thick" to take a pounding, but the threat is as good as the look most times. Kordell would have been quite a player as Slash if he wasn't so stubborn about QB'ing. Then the coaches turned him into a potted daisy. THAT was a shame to waste all his abilities. Fault on both sides there.

Dixon runs and can move, Ben is much better when he moves out, yet our Mensa Club makes these guys look like Clydesdales, for cryin' out loud. Dixon and Sweed - (I say salvage him and get his confidence) just need game experience but these clowns won't let them play. Stupid, really. Dixon can throw as well. 1 intercept against a great D in THEIR hostile field in his 1st start after getting the gig on the bus ride over? C'mon, give the guy some cred. He DID get us the lead but the D (surprise, surprise) let us down.

"Hey Bruce, look at Ben's stats when he rolls and when he plays No-Huddle we score!. Looks like he has it workin'."

"Yeah, Mike, but we don't want to do that. Then the other team has to defend it and it might make it too hard for them. I'm not sure it's fair to do the stuff that REALLY worked for us before and trick the other guys. I'd rather play straight up the field so EVERYONE can defend us better."

"Well then, Bruce, if that's how you think it should be, do it! Good thing our D can make a stop every now and then. Don't want to be moving the chains too much on offense now anyway, do we?"

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