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Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby Coke Oven » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:39 am

just like Kordell. All run no pass.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby oldschoolhunkie » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:51 am

Um, it was his first game, with one or two days of practice.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby PGHeaven » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:56 am

Coke Oven wrote:just like Kordell. All run no pass.


DD played a decent game. Arians set him up for failure

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby kazkal » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:07 am

I thought he looked Solid for being his first start(Though I'm bit of a homer being from Oregon ^_^)



PS,He looked good evading defenders & has some jets on that touch down run....
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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby indysteel » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:17 am

He's a professional.

He gets paid to produce.

He could not do it when it mattered.

They lost.

It is that simple.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby BigE » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:34 am

Please don't compare Dixon to Kordell!! This was his first game, national tv and playing the Ravens, I thought he did quite well. I blame the idiot Arians for that interception. That was about as poor as you can get when calling a game, 2 bootlegs the entire fucking game!!!! And both of them went for touchdowns, and he didn't call another one the entire game.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby kabbage » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:33 am

more great wisdom from indysteel, should we apply that logic to Ben's recent play? idiot.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby Coke Oven » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:23 am

All you wishful thinkers are the same ilk that hoped and prayed that Kordell would eventually turn it around and shape up. Throwing accurately beyond 10 yards doesn't seem to be a thing that can be coached. Ben had the talent to do so the minute he stepped on the field for the first time. Kordell never did. Dixon doesn't. The comparison between Stewart and Dixon is there whether you like it or not.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby kimo_brah » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:11 pm

Agreed - most of his passes were way off. At least he didn't panic and run on every play because he couldn't follow more than on receiver at a time like Kordell. Arians should at least have tried to give him some quick short passes and more plays designed to use his legs. But, eventually you have to hit some receivers.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby toomuchmerrilhoge » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:20 pm

Ben had the talent to do so the minute he stepped on the field for the first time. Kordell never did. Dixon doesn't. The comparison between Stewart and Dixon is there whether you like it or not.


Ben also threw plenty of ill-advised picks his first (and second) years. Remember the '04 playoff run? We squeaked by the Jets at home:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/boxscores/2005/01/15/1534_boxscore.html
...note the pick-6.

He played awful against the Pats as well, which cost us the game:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/boxscores/2005/01/23/1536_boxscore.html
...again, note the pick-6.

The point is that Dixon played a very good game last night in a high-pressure situation. Yes, his deep ball wasn't great, but I was more disappointed that Arians didn't let him run more, especially in OT.
I'm glad he got the experience, because we need a backup who won't break his wrist after taking 4 snaps.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby deltadweller » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:36 pm

toomuchmerrilhoge wrote:
Ben had the talent to do so the minute he stepped on the field for the first time. Kordell never did. Dixon doesn't. The comparison between Stewart and Dixon is there whether you like it or not.


Ben also threw plenty of ill-advised picks his first (and second) years. Remember the '04 playoff run? We squeaked by the Jets at home:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/boxscores/2005/01/15/1534_boxscore.html
...note the pick-6.

He played awful against the Pats as well, which cost us the game:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/boxscores/2005/01/23/1536_boxscore.html
...again, note the pick-6.

The point is that Dixon played a very good game last night in a high-pressure situation. Yes, his deep ball wasn't great, but I was more disappointed that Arians didn't let him run more, especially in OT.
I'm glad he got the experience, because we need a backup who won't break his wrist after taking 4 snaps.


Try not to let facts cloud your opinion. ;) I think we're just trying to pencil him in as a back up not a permanet replacement. I'm not sure, but I don't think Farve was available to back up.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby SoCal Stiller » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:11 pm

You people fucking amaze me that after watching that game your only comment is about the play of Dixon??? Are you kidding me - he was one of the few bright spots. What he did yesterday would be the equivalent of someone telling you to fly a 747 after 3 hours of training. There are a dozen more legitimate reasons why we lost and Dixon is near the bottom! Unbelievable!!! :shock:

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby mckeesrockstheburg » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:02 pm

They won't think Pgh will risk using his running abilities BECAUSE we will keep him "contained" ourselves


One of my earlier posts prior to game time: "If you were the OC". Called this one. We strangled the poor guy and he could have won this thing. I lay it at MT and AO Arians feet. DD was set up to fail. Read on...

Ok, let's get this straight, no practice time to speak of and DD gets the gig at the last minute. Now, he runs early for 31 untouched yds but a flag brings it back. Speed? I think he has some. Then later he takes off on bootleg for 20+ UNTOUCHED yds and a TD because he can.

Now, we're in OT (but he did get us the lead at one time). We are 2nd and 6 on 1st drive and Mr. Mensa has him throw deep, never-freaking-mind that he has not been too good all night on deep stuff, from the pocket. Then on 3rd and same distance, WE DO THE SAME FREAKING THING, expecting a different result. (tHIS DEFINES "INSANITY" RIGHT?). We can't let him use his gifts and roll out and create an option of running for 6 (or more), nor can we throw to a back in the flat that worked earlier. Can't do a fake right and keeper left on a naked bootleg with a youngster with speed who proved that earlier on. No, can't do that stuff to get 1st downs. Can't be interested in moving the chains.

Sorry, folks, play for draft picks now. We are going to Nowheresville. Pathetic waste of talent and opportunity.

Anyone disagree? I think DD did great, all things considered - who opponent was, prep time, practice time, reps., etc. His moron coaches let him down and it is getting old..

BTW, anyone else TIRED of Logan just up and running kicks right back into the wedge?

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby SoCal Stiller » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:13 pm

"BTW, anyone else TIRED of Logan just up and running kicks right back into the wedge?"

I was thinking the same thing. He had several opportunities to bounce it outside and use his speed! If he's not going to take advantage of his quickness, you might as well put Fat Casey back tere and let him run into the wedge and win the war of attrition! By the 3rd quarter they would have to play all starters on ST's due to the carnage he would inflict! 8-)

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby Steelhope » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:35 pm

mckeesrockstheburg wrote:
They won't think Pgh will risk using his running abilities BECAUSE we will keep him "contained" ourselves


One of my earlier posts prior to game time: "If you were the OC". Called this one. We strangled the poor guy and he could have won this thing. I lay it at MT and AO Arians feet. DD was set up to fail. Read on...

Ok, let's get this straight, no practice time to speak of and DD gets the gig at the last minute. Now, he runs early for 31 untouched yds but a flag brings it back. Speed? I think he has some. Then later he takes off on bootleg for 20+ UNTOUCHED yds and a TD because he can.

Now, we're in OT (but he did get us the lead at one time). We are 2nd and 6 on 1st drive and Mr. Mensa has him throw deep, never-freaking-mind that he has not been too good all night on deep stuff, from the pocket. Then on 3rd and same distance, WE DO THE SAME FREAKING THING, expecting a different result. (tHIS DEFINES "INSANITY" RIGHT?). We can't let him use his gifts and roll out and create an option of running for 6 (or more), nor can we throw to a back in the flat that worked earlier. Can't do a fake right and keeper left on a naked bootleg with a youngster with speed who proved that earlier on. No, can't do that stuff to get 1st downs. Can't be interested in moving the chains.

Sorry, folks, play for draft picks now. We are going to Nowheresville. Pathetic waste of talent and opportunity.

Anyone disagree? I think DD did great, all things considered - who opponent was, prep time, practice time, reps., etc. His moron coaches let him down and it is getting old..

BTW, anyone else TIRED of Logan just up and running kicks right back into the wedge?

...what he said.. :suplusone:

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby PGHeaven » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:04 am

indysteel wrote:He's a professional.

He gets paid to produce.

He could not do it when it mattered.

They lost.

It is that simple.


So what part of your brain do you think is the most damaged?

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby PGHeaven » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:11 am

McKee - I am SICK and tired of watching Logan field the KO then dutifully run straight into the nearest group of opposing players. There is NO evidence of a desire to actually return one. Rather, it appears that his job description is to not fumble

he BLOWS

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby Coke Oven » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:45 am

mckeesrockstheburg, based on what you posted, which I agree with, can you to make a case for the belief that Steeler ownership/coaching actually wanted to win that game? I cannot and I don't believe that they did.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby mckeesrockstheburg » Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:53 am

I'll bet you incentivize a 3rd down conversion rate in Ass's contract, you'll see some chains move real quick.
"Bruce, tell ya what we'll do for ya. Base pay $100k; top 5 ranked offense get another 50k, top 5 in points scored by offense only (defense points don't count) get another 50k, ...hit 70% 3rd down conversions get 75k, REGARDLESS of how many 3rd down attempts are necessary." (The less 3rd down attempts, the earier to hit the magic mark!) Move ball on 1st and 2nd and won't need to worry about 3rd's.
mckeesrockstheburg, based on what you posted, which I agree with, can you to make a case for the belief that Steeler ownership/coaching actually wanted to win that game? I cannot and I don't believe that they did.


No I cannot, Mr. Coke. I am getting worn out with all the "after the game woulda, coulda, shoulda's". Well, NOW we're gonna light it up because NOW we're up against it. Geez, maybe asking Jeff Reed to slow down a busted kick return by just getting in front of someone or pushing sonmeone out of bounds after the season has started is a little late, ya think. Maybe, just maybe, incentivize Ass Arians a little bit (see above) to move the chains instead of throwing deep every 3rd play, ... that is, AFTER we have tried to run up the nose of every freaking nose tackle from from here to East Cupkake.

Why do we ALWAYS learn too late and then all of the sudden, it is time for an epiphany monent: "NOW, we'll unleash hell". Maybe the Cinci loss but certainly the Chicago loss would have been goodplace to start.. There is just too much talent, not getting younger BTW, to let this stuff happen. I lay it at Front Office to keep Arians and and now LeBeau is suspect. 3rd and 22 and they make it with Flacco? Are you kidding me? No I cannot make the case they wanted a win.

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Re: Dixon can't hit his receivers

Postby LambertoCincoOcho » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:19 pm

The deep pass to Wallace he threw out of bounds was piss poor. No excuse for that. NONE. Our QB's can't seem to realize that they have to release the ball sooner to compensate for Wallace's speed. He's always waiting on balls instead of running underneath them. WTF?

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