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New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby StillMill » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:24 am

Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades has been posted by Still Mill at Stillers.com.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby smheart78 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:59 am

The special teams, returns and punts, are a vast improvement over last year!
I'll say this, I know longer worry and cringe at the thought of punts.
With 10+/- yards better for each play this gives the team a great boost.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby Coke Oven » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:15 am

"Troy was having a big game before he stooped over -- like an idiot -- to scoop up a blocked FG amidst a scrum rather than simply falling on the ball. He got crumpled by Crumpler and never returned, and we can only pray he will return this season."

I watched that play over a few times and I'm definitely of the opinion that the Titans tried to injure him. He was having a terrific night and they wanted to put a stop to it. That's football. I like it when we do same.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby blackbrown&gold » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:29 pm

My observation as to FWP was that he has completely lost his field vision. Mill references it as well. He seems to be that split second slow on his decision making, and then appears to take the wrong gap. This is suppose to be instinctual, and is what makes a good running back. Parker may have covered this up when he was younger and faster. Now that he has lost some of the speed, it is really noticeable. Bottom Line: He no longer has any explosion, and appears done.

AS to this idea that the titans were trying to hurt troy, give me a break. to say that means you have absolutely no idea as to what it is like to play a contact game. You think Crumpler designed his fall on to Troy's leg in the middle of a 20 man scrum? Anyone that has played football or rugby will tell you differently. Do you think Harrison meant to fuck up scaiffes leg. Hell no, he was just trying to bring him to the ground, any nasty way he could.

Lastly, i think Mill needs to upgrade his grade on clark by one +, if just for his wicked hit of White on the running play in the 3rd or 4th q. that represented steeler football, and white was definitely fucked up from it. In fact, i think the next play we may have had a sack or hurry [can't remember] as a result of white loafing around in the backfield in his stunned state.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby Coke Oven » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:35 pm

"AS to this idea that the titans were trying to hurt troy, give me a break. to say that means you have absolutely no idea as to what it is like to play a contact game."

I don't have to be insane like you to know that you're an absolute mental case. You have no concept of reality. You must be a Democrat.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby CanadianSteel » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:04 pm

Oline D- imo

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby smheart78 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:35 pm

Oline D- imo

Exactly, giving them a B is like saying the way the played is acceptable.... I figured that for a typo.
I agree to some extent that FWP needs to find the hole and make a decision much more quickly. He never got to full speed.
Here's what I saw from my comfy couch; Logan quickly making decisions to go vertical and finding the hole before I could even see it from my big screen, while FWP is still dancing to find a spot to charge as plenty of fans saw the same holes well before he did.
I know this is not an entirely fair comparison but it easily illustrates the difference the split seconds make.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby dan1412000 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:52 pm

There is no way the Titans were trying to injury Troy. It just happened. He tried to scoop the ball up instead of fall on it and the flow of the players toward the ball caused the injury.

FWP is officially done. Also I predict that Isaac Redman will be back on the team soon. Never understood why you cut a guy to the practice squad who address a glaring need on the offense.

Someone needs to take Arians out. In a smash mouth game you call a shot gun pass on 3rd and 2 and the 22. Granted Ben added yards to the sack, but why not do a FB dive or run and take a chance at getting the first down or at leas setting up the FG. Arians has no concept of where the team is on the field or the flow of the game. Definitely Crayola mind at work. Love the artilces Mill. Keep up the great work.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby StillCanadian » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:13 pm

FWP needs to attack the line, not sputter. What every happened to the delay hand off the Stillers use to run? That was effective when used.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby CanadianSteel » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:37 pm

dan1412000 wrote:There is no way the Titans were trying to injury Troy. It just happened. He tried to scoop the ball up instead of fall on it and the flow of the players toward the ball caused the injury.

FWP is officially done. Also I predict that Isaac Redman will be back on the team soon. Never understood why you cut a guy to the practice squad who address a glaring need on the offense.

Someone needs to take Arians out. In a smash mouth game you call a shot gun pass on 3rd and 2 and the 22. Granted Ben added yards to the sack, but why not do a FB dive or run and take a chance at getting the first down or at leas setting up the FG. Arians has no concept of where the team is on the field or the flow of the game. Definitely Crayola mind at work. Love the artilces Mill. Keep up the great work.




This pretty well says it all. I love FWP and thank him for all the great memories he gave us, but his time is just about up. I'm also not sold on weather Medenhall is the answer or not.

I was hoping that I'd see that FB dive on a few of them 3rd and 1's but instead i get Parker up the gut :supissed: :supissed: :supissed: :supissed:

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby rifraff » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:57 pm

The only thing I fear is 3rd & 1 and a 'no-brainer' running play. Try the 'Tank', a big TE, a bigger linemen (not Casey). We should just punt and skip the humilation?

Whats Lamberts #, that was 30+ years ago. Yeah, I was there, I cant remember what I had for dinner last nite. Ok, I'm visualizing in my minds eye, looks like 53? Close, had to get out the DVD.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

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I think we need some more recent players numbers :D At least it keeps the spam out. Props to whoever put it in place.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby mckeesrockstheburg » Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:59 pm

OK Fellas, talley 'em up time: how many yards did we get with BB's hurry-up, backyard drills vs. Mensa Bruce's play calling.

Not sure it is a number with any real value but the point is, let BB call 80% of the plays.

Remember McAfee leading The Bus thru the holes? Kreider's killer pancakes for the Bus? Now we send FWP out on his own with a line that can't block for crap and expect him, (he is NOT a tackle breaker), to get us 2 or 3 yards when everyone knows he's getting it. At least put some trickery into the damn play, a fake toss, a fake end around, ANYTHING to lighten the pressure.

BTW, do we EVER throw a 10-12 yd "out pattern" anymore? They threw 4 or 5 at Ike and completed every one it seemed. We won, thank God, but boy, you know what's coming now- Steelers can't run, shut down Hines or Holmes and make us 1 dimensional.

Been saying all off-season, Seppy gives us FP. Can he kill it in the redzone or what? Now with a return man, our special teams with be just that,...Special! Finally.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby tourosteelersfan » Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:25 am

Doctor,

This all seems so familiar. No running game, clutch performance by Ben, no holding penalties called despite blatant holds on Harrison, outstanding performance by Polamalu before he was injured, Mill lighting up Farrior in the post-game review. Still, there were a few surprises: Arians mixed up the passing game and threw to Heath Miller a decent amount. This had to help open up the passing game for the long passes on the scoring drives (and the almost-scoring drive at the end of the 4th quarter). I agree that Arians should try to use Logan on offense - let me acknowledge my first error of the season in underestimating how he would do in the regular season. And Mill I think you were, surprisingly, a bit generous with the offensive line - perhaps FWP should have gained about 35 yards instead of less than 20. The o line has to share some of the blame for anemic running game.

Hard hat to Big Ben who showed everyone - including prospective jurors in Nevada in his civil case - why he is the BEST clutch quarterback in the NFL. If only he could wake up in the first quarter.

Touro

PS Mill, I too am swooning over Wallace, especially with the smart move and clutch catch in overtime. But don't give him a hard hat yet.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby oldschoolhunkie » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:09 am

Kind of funny that after si many years of whining for more Heath no one bothered to get excited that he had a career high. Seemed they were using him well as an h back blocking then releasing for pattern.

Logan looked great. I'll even give him a pass on the one boner cause at least he stayed clear.

I don't have a grasp on the running yet. Fwp did not look good but I'm nit ready to write him off. Ditto tank who blocked abysmally.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby indysteel » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:32 pm

Ole man Willie has turned into one big pus*y. Tentative, dancing around, and falling down on a dry, grass surface with no one near him is pathetic.

This fricking clown has been worth a tinkers damn since he injured his leg against St. Louis.

Even WITH good blocking (a big if!), I'm not sure it would help him. He simply has lost it.

What fuc*king memories are you fellas talking about with Ole Man Willie? The 75 yard run in the SB? OK. I guess. We'll never confuse this clown with Bettis, Harris, or, hell, Blier for that matter.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby CanadianSteel » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:03 pm

indysteel wrote:Ole man Willie has turned into one big pus*y. Tentative, dancing around, and falling down on a dry, grass surface with no one near him is pathetic.

This fricking clown has been worth a tinkers damn since he injured his leg against St. Louis.

Even WITH good blocking (a big if!), I'm not sure it would help him. He simply has lost it.

What fuc*king memories are you fellas talking about with Ole Man Willie? The 75 yard run in the SB? OK. I guess. We'll never confuse this clown with Bettis, Harris, or, hell, Blier for that matter.



Yes the Super Bowl run and have you guys forgot about the 223 yards (Steelers record) he put up against the Browns in 3 thats right 3 quarters of work? Or how about the 213 yards he hung on the Saints? INC runs of 72 and 76? Still holds Steelers record for most combined TD's with 16 in 06/07. As i have said IMO FWP is just about done, but unlike some other fans i will not call the guy a pu**y or jerk, sometimes i wonder about some of you guys.....

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby toomuchmerrilhoge » Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:40 pm

but unlike some other fans i will not call the guy a pu**y or jerk, sometimes i wonder about some of you guys.....


...agreed. FWP isn't what he used to be, but I'm not sure there are many backs who could run Arians' f'ed-in-the-A system. No lead blockers, below-average O-line, and predictable play calling don't make it easy. I think FWP has some gas left in the tank, but it may be used with another team. What's the biggest difference between Wizenhunt's offense and Arians? When Wiz was here, we had Jeff Hartings and Alen Faneca, and Dan Kreider clearing out holes. With McHugh on IR, and Summers as green as they come, we're really going to have to get creative to pick up yards on the ground.

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby mckeesrockstheburg » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:24 pm

Remember McAfee leading The Bus thru the holes? Kreider's killer pancakes for the Bus? Now we send FWP out on his own with a line that can't block for crap and expect him, (he is NOT a tackle breaker), to get us 2 or 3 yards when everyone knows he's getting it. At least put some trickery into the damn play, a fake toss, a fake end around, ANYTHING to lighten the pressure.

BTW, do we EVER throw a 10-12 yd "out pattern" anymore? They threw 4 or 5 at Ike and completed every one it seemed. We won, thank God, but boy, you know what's coming now- Steelers can't run, shut down Hines or Holmes and make us 1 dimensional.



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but unlike some other fans i will not call the guy a pu**y or jerk, sometimes i wonder about some of you guys.....



We're all on the same page. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall in the film breakdown sessions?

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Re: New Article: Stillers-Titans Postgame Analysis and Grades

Postby CanadianSteel » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:07 pm

toomuchmerrilhoge wrote:
but unlike some other fans i will not call the guy a pu**y or jerk, sometimes i wonder about some of you guys.....


...agreed. FWP isn't what he used to be, but I'm not sure there are many backs who could run Arians' f'ed-in-the-A system. No lead blockers, below-average O-line, and predictable play calling don't make it easy. I think FWP has some gas left in the tank, but it may be used with another team. What's the biggest difference between Wizenhunt's offense and Arians? When Wiz was here, we had Jeff Hartings and Alen Faneca, and Dan Kreider clearing out holes. With McHugh on IR, and Summers as green as they come, we're really going to have to get creative to pick up yards on the ground.



Thats the whole thing about BA offence, it lacks any sort of creativity. When Wiz was running things how many "gadget" plays did we see? Now i'm not saying thats the answer to our current problems but i sure as hell know the answer is not run for no gain, run for 2 yard, pass and punt.

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