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North Shore land deal - Is Debbie Lestitian Right?

Postby thesteelhammer » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:50 pm

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_581549.html?source=rss&feed=9

Steelers thrilled with North Shore deal
By Jeremy Boren
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, August 7, 2008

The Pittsburgh Steelers won the right Wednesday to buy two prime spots on the North Shore despite objections from North Siders and the city Stadium Authority's chairwoman.
During a tense 2.5-hour hearing, the four-member authority twice voted 3-1 to sell its land near PNC Park and Heinz Field to the football team, which plans to turn one plot into a Hyatt Place hotel and the other into a $10 million, 2,600-seat entertainment venue.

The lone objector was Chairwoman Debbie Lestitian. She said the authority failed taxpayers because it did not negotiate the highest possible price for the real estate. Voting in favor were state Rep. Jake Wheatley, D-Hill District, lobbyist Bob Ewanco and former Mayor Sophie Masloff.

"I think this board has a fiduciary responsibility to the taxpayers to put these projects out to bid to get the price that we can, and the best development we can for the land," Lestitian said. "Pittsburgh is a distressed city, and we're giving away our prime riverfront property."

Lestitian also argued it is illegal to sell the land to the Steelers because the team's developer, Continental Real Estate Cos., failed to develop North Shore land quickly enough to comply with a 2003 land "option agreement," which she believes has expired.
Continental and others dispute that. Ewanco said the point of selling the land to the Steelers was not to draw a high price, but to ensure that acres of parking lots between the venues are turned into developments that are tax-revenue engines for the city.

The two-part land deal breaks down this way:

• The Steelers will pay the Stadium Authority $1.32 million for 3.5 acres of land near PNC Park, where construction on a 178-room Hyatt Place hotel must begin by the end of the year.

The team must also give the authority $668,000 in parking revenues; in exchange, the team and developer won't be required to develop another North Shore parcel until 2010.

• A separate, 3.9-acre parcel known as "Lot 6" will be sold to the Steelers for $1.38 million. The deal requires the team to use the site as some type of entertainment venue for at least 10 years, and prohibits it from being sold for the same span of time.

If the terms of the sales are violated, the land automatically reverts back to the Stadium Authority's control.

Lestitian noted that land recently sold on the North Shore to Kratsa Development for a Holiday Inn was sold for $75.82 a square foot, which she said is nine times the amount per square foot for which the two parcels are being sold to the Steelers.

Marc Hart, the Steelers' business director, praised the Stadium Authority's decision.

"We're very excited. We've got a great project, this is great for the North Shore. The hotel and the theater -- this continues the progress," Hart said.

Throughout the meeting, members of the labor union-supported group Northside United chanted slogans against the sale.

Several said the Steelers and Continental were ignoring demands for a community benefits agreement -- a contract that would guarantee jobs, fair wages and social services for impoverished sections of the North Side.

"This land is our land; it's not yours!" the group of about 25 people chanted before and during the meeting. "We're fired up. (We) won't take it no more."


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Re: North Shore land deal - Is Debbie Lestitian Right?

Postby thesteelhammer » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:23 pm

Steelers want more public money.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08225/903549-66.stm?cmpid=steelers.xml

Anybody got any feelings about this?

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Re: North Shore land deal - Is Debbie Lestitian Right?

Postby GodfatherofSoul » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:00 pm

thesteelhammer wrote:Steelers want more public money.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08225/903549-66.stm?cmpid=steelers.xml

Anybody got any feelings about this?


Sounds like they straight up sold out. I'm guessing some cash was flying under the table to get this deal pushed. They sold the land for 1/9th the market price????? You tell me...

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Re: North Shore land deal - Is Debbie Lestitian Right?

Postby Steeledge » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:07 am

Is Debbie Lestitian Right?


In a word, NO!

With all the hubbub right now about the possibility of the Steelers being sold, it is not the time to try and put the squeeze on the team for more cash.

Consider the discount an investment. What the team is proposing to do with these sites will bring many more jobs and much more revenue to the area than any "premium priced" sale ever would, and if the team does happen to change hands, the chances of it leaving the 'burgh are that much less with a much greater vested property interest like this.

This is just a typical, non-forward-thinking, non-football-liking, senseless liberal woman trying to lift her leg and piss like the boys to mark her territory. She looks like a FOOL!
Wha make you tink I won cutchu, mang?!?

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Re: North Shore land deal - Is Debbie Lestitian Right?

Postby GodfatherofSoul » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:13 pm

Steeledge wrote:This is just a typical, non-forward-thinking, non-football-liking, senseless liberal woman trying to lift her leg and piss like the boys to mark her territory. She looks like a FOOL!


"Given that they were able to purchase the land at one-fifteenth of its value, at some point we have to question why all the benefits are being given to one developer for one piece of land."

So, in your mind selling the public lands at 1/15th the price is "good business"? On top of that, they want even more money from the city to pay for the project.

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Re: North Shore land deal - Is Debbie Lestitian Right?

Postby steelerette » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:20 pm

Steeledge wrote:This is just a typical, non-forward-thinking, non-football-liking, senseless liberal woman trying to lift her leg and piss like the boys to mark her territory. She looks like a FOOL!


Wow, just wow! Image

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