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Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby anthonyc20 » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:13 pm

You have Darius Butler and Eben Britton on the board, an elite CB and an elite OT and you go with an overachieving DT without any upside who won't even see the field for 2 years?! The only player we have drafted that can even have a millimeter of impact next year is Summers. Urbik won't ever see the field, Wallace will have trouble making the team. The Oregon St. CB has some potential but the Central Florida guy was a reach. Have to be disappointed with this draft.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby GCCSteel » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:59 pm

anthonyc20 wrote:You have Darius Butler and Eben Britton on the board, an elite CB and an elite OT and you go with an overachieving DT without any upside who won't even see the field for 2 years?! The only player we have drafted that can even have a millimeter of impact next year is Summers. Urbik won't ever see the field, Wallace will have trouble making the team. The Oregon St. CB has some potential but the Central Florida guy was a reach. Have to be disappointed with this draft.


Now that is a decent argument. Darius Butler and Eben Britton were two viable options at this pick, IMHO. I thought the pick was going to be Britton. Britton went to the Jags and Darius went to the Pats 9 selections later. Both were positions we needed. Again, I will say just be patient and look at the track record we have drafting. This board was up in arms over Polamalu and Timmons and the value we *could* have gotten instead. I don't think many will argue those weren't solid picks.

We clearly saw something in Ziggy we liked and I challenge anyone to argue that we don't need depth/youth at the position. Smith is old, Keisel is old, Hampton/Hoke are old. The great thing about Ziggy is that he is of the build that he can provide depth for ALL THREE positions. He will not start this year, but he will be ready to go next year and will log some quality minutes in the meantime.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby anthonyc20 » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:02 pm

We let the best pure cover corner in the draft and an impact kick returner go for a guy who won't ever have a significant impact on this team. Even if he does have the skills (hood) he had injury problems throughout college and didn't excel in any area. He's not great against the run, or the pass and he plays too tall to clog up holes. I cannot believe after losing McFad we would pass up on Butler. The Patriots took Butler with their first pick before 20 seconds ran off their clock.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby steelerspaz » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:34 pm

It's hard to take you seriously when you call Eben Britton an "elite OT prospect". Then you complain about durability issues when Darius Butler has the same.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby anthonyc20 » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:16 pm

Guy played tackle for one year and was all conference. Butler was a 4 year started and missed 2, yes TWO to a minor knee injury. Hard to take you seriously when you have no clue what you're fuckin talking about.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby anthonyc20 » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:19 pm

We just spent a first rounder on a guy who has no upside and weak production in college while not upgrading the secondary or the o-line for next year. Other than Shipley, who is probably the best player we got in round 7, this draft gets an emphatic F

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby thesteelhammer » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:02 pm

Don't hate it, but don't love it either.
Can't even say I love a single pick.
(Got hope for a few though :suxfingers: )

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby oldschoolhunkie » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:47 pm

Well, I have for one have absolutely no idea about most of these guys and very much doubt most of you do either.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby anthonyc20 » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:52 pm

oldschoolhunkie wrote:Well, I have for one have absolutely no idea about most of these guys and very much doubt most of you do either.


moron.
I really think Shipley is the only guy who has a chance to ever start for this team.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby Snockered Pedestrian » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:57 pm

I wouldn't have taken Butler b/c he is not good in run support and has fragility issues.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby Nittany Steel37 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:12 am

Hey douchebag what are your credentials for slamming this draft? Oh what's that, you watched a few games, Sportscenter, and listened to Mel Kiper and Todd McShay? Why don't you leave the drafting to the professionals jackass.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby steelcitymetal » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:33 am

our team is littered with future hall of famers or pro-bowlers on both sides of the ball.

not every draft can be 1974.
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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby Steel Holiday » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:24 am

Nittany Steel37 wrote:Hey douchebag what are your credentials for slamming this draft? Oh what's that, you watched a few games, Sportscenter, and listened to Mel Kiper and Todd McShay? Why don't you leave the drafting to the professionals jackass.


Anthony has his dobber in the dirt because the Steelers offensive line wasn't the priority he thought it was in his final mock draft :cry: . What this dude is choosing not to see in all his shame is that Pittsburgh got some quality, experienced football players to add to their roster.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby stillgrill » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:36 am

If Mendenhall ends up a bust, LAST yr's draft will be a disgrace. When you have virtually no rookies dressing, that's pathetic. At least they're addressing the return gm by throwing enuff shit on the wall (Burnett, Wallace, Keenan Ivory, etc). Some has got to stick, right? Right???

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby Nittany Steel37 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:58 pm

I think the draft has plenty of promise. Any sensible person/fan would say "come back to me in 2-3 years" to judge the draft. Just because it's not being talked about on ESPN doesn't mean it sucked.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby anthonyc20 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:23 pm

Just keep talking shit, Sporting News Magazine gave our draft an F, and our aggregate grade was 2.5 from major national sports media outlets. All of our draft picks except Shipley were a reach. Urbik won't even make the team, and none of the round 4-7 prospects will make the team except Shipley. By 2011 only 2 of the players will be on this team at most, and none of them will be full time starters, g-u-a-r-a-n-t-e-e-d.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby anthonyc20 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:26 pm

stillgrill wrote:If Mendenhall ends up a bust, LAST yr's draft will be a disgrace. When you have virtually no rookies dressing, that's pathetic. At least they're addressing the return gm by throwing enuff shit on the wall (Burnett, Wallace, Keenan Ivory, etc). Some has got to stick, right? Right???


said the same thing last year, except I still like Mendenhall, that we had a useless draft and we did the same this year (except instead of 1 player we got 0 players).

Drafting at 32 is no excuse, as the 2006 draft was good enough. This draft will be one of the worst of all time, with 2008's draft not being very far behind.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby JimPgh1 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:39 pm

anthonyc20 wrote:Just keep talking shit, Sporting News Magazine gave our draft an F, and our aggregate grade was 2.5 from major national sports media outlets. All of our draft picks except Shipley were a reach. Urbik won't even make the team, and none of the round 4-7 prospects will make the team except Shipley. By 2011 only 2 of the players will be on this team at most, and none of them will be full time starters, g-u-a-r-a-n-t-e-e-d.


I don't know if this draft will be a success or not...and neither do you.

However, you lost whatever credibility you had by stating Urbik won't even make the team. Barring injury, they'll keep him a minimum of 2 seasons, regardless. Tony Hills is still on the team and he has done zip. If you think they would give up on Urbik just like that, you're sadly mistaken.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby GCCSteel » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:33 pm

I find it amusing that you can be so up in arms about our draft the day after it occurred. So we didn't get your favorite players and Mel Kiper doesn't like our draft. We got value where we picked. We will see how it pans out. You were clamoring on and on about how we NEEDED Shipley and we wasted our pick because we didn't get him. Well, we got him 7th round. I don't see what you like so much about the guy, honestly. I know a few PSU players who played with him and they say he isn't very athleticly gifted and is a kiss ass with the coaches and thats how he got playing time. We will see if he makes the roster. I hope he does and goes on to a long and productive career, obviously, because I am a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Lighten up, though, no one knows how this draft will turn out. I am pretty sure ESPN made a mistake once or twice in grading drafts.

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Re: Worst draft for the Steelers that I can remember

Postby Nittany Steel37 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:24 pm

Any sensible person/fan would say "come back to me in 2-3 years"


I don't give a shit what TSN said!! Or the aggregate from the national media! So many "g-u-a-r-a-n-t-e-e-d" stars flame out and don't do jack. The two players with the longest offensive and defensive plays in the Super Bowl WEREN'T EVEN DRAFTED. This is much more of a guessing game than everyone likes to pretend.

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