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McFadden a Cardinal

Postby No l Gravity l » Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:24 pm

MCFADDEN JOINS CARDINALS
Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 8, 2009, 5:46 p.m. EDT

Pittsburgh Steelers free agent cornerback Bryant McFadden has agreed to a two-year, $10 million contract with the Arizona Cardinals, according to a league source.

McFadden received $5 million in guaranteed money, compensation that will be paid out entirely during the first year of the deal.

McFadden was drawing interest from four NFL teams: the Cardinals, the Steelers, the Miami Dolphins and the Philadelphia Eagles.

John Clayton of ESPN.com and Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com are also reporting that McFadden has agreed to terms.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/ ... cardinals/

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby Snockered Pedestrian » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:02 pm

Whiz adds another ex-Steeler to his growing collection.

Now, does this change the FO's draft strategy? I'm not sure Gay is ready
to start, and Townsend is 33. It does open up a shot for Roy Lewis.

What to draft, what to draft? CBs that have my attention: Mark Parson, Asher Allen.

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby darthsteel » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:38 pm

a guy in his mid 20s getting a 2 yr deal, nothing better out there? that tells me , no one thinks hes more the a very good 3rd corner on the best defense in football.

whiz offering him a 2 yr deal, basically means we have no clue if your a starting nfl cb..

If the steelers thought of him as a solid nfl corner they would have easilly gave him 4 yrs 20-25 million...

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby thesteelhammer » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:04 pm

Wow that SUCKS.

Here's more:
Darren Urban, of AZCardinals.com, reports Arizona Cardinals CB Bryant McFadden is expected to compete with CB Roderick Hood for the starting cornerback job opposite CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.


:? "compete" :? COMPETE?

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby IronCity__Man » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:13 pm

Hard to keep a team going while watching 2nd round talent slip away. Frustrating. I am shocked at the two-year deal. I would imagine the steelers would not go past 4 or 4.5 - AZ really threw out the big bait.

Now we need a high draft pick corner in a year when we should be drafting O and D lineman in the first two rounds. Then we will draft another Anthony Smith.

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby Nel » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:07 pm

IronCity__Man wrote:Hard to keep a team going while watching 2nd round talent slip away. Frustrating. I am shocked at the two-year deal. I would imagine the steelers would not go past 4 or 4.5 - AZ really threw out the big bait.

Now we need a high draft pick corner in a year when we should be drafting O and D lineman in the first two rounds. Then we will draft another Anthony Smith.


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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby SteelTank » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:09 pm

Is it me or does the signing of Farrior and franchising of Starks seem very unnecessary at this point? We need to extend Harrison now.. Woodley and Timmonswill be wanting(and will deserve) big extensions in a couple of years. McFad could have been had on the cheap it sounds like to me and I'm thinking Starks and Farrior are overpriced average players...

If we had a tad bit more cap-room then maybe a deal gets done for McFad.

Makes me wonder if the NFL will become un-capped for good in the coming years or the CAP will explode to 150 million or something. Maybe this makes the signing of Farrior and probably a long-term deal for Starks not so bad over the long haul. I hope Colbert and the Steeler brain-trust have more of a feel for the coming increase in the size CAP and the likelyhood of no CAP over the coming years. Once there isn't a CAP in a given year, it would seem that the CAP, if re-instated, would have to elevated quit a bit.

McFad will do very well in Zona, who, by the way, is looking better all the time for next year.

With the Steelers playing a weak schedule - Could it be a re-match?

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby toomuchmerrilhoge » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:13 pm

Oh well. Time for Willie Gay to step it up. I'm not sure he's quite ready, though. However, B-Mac was on the sidelines for several games last year, and we got by. As much as it does hurt to lose a talented cb, he's not irreplaceable. I am surprised he took such a short-term deal with AZ. Another case of a defensive back thinking they can cash in after they see some huge deals go down by whacko owners (aka Al Davis). I think B-Mac may have considered coming back to the Steelers too much of a bruise to his ego.

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby steelcitymetal » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:49 am

MCFADDEN JOINS CARDINALS

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby lloydrules » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:28 pm

Nel wrote:
IronCity__Man wrote:Hard to keep a team going while watching 2nd round talent slip away. Frustrating. I am shocked at the two-year deal. I would imagine the steelers would not go past 4 or 4.5 - AZ really threw out the big bait.

Now we need a high draft pick corner in a year when we should be drafting O and D lineman in the first two rounds. Then we will draft another Anthony Smith.


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Oh that means losing B-Mack is a good thing, since you have faith and all. :suahhbs:

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby lloydrules » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:34 pm

When have you seen B-Mack do anything but look like an outstanding CB? Even when he's beat it's by inches. He never misses a tackle. He's made great plays when it matters most (post season as a rookie in 2005). Pgh couldn't have given him a 4-year deal and have kept him? This makes no sense. B-Mack was hardly just a 3rd CB. And someone said this changes the draft. Well, it better not change us taking at least 2 OLmen in the first 4 picks, if not 3.

And we need a DE as well. Smith is 33. Plus Hampton is nearing the end of the road.

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2. Best OL
3. Best OL/DE
4. Best whatever position not taken at 3.

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby Witchblade » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:00 pm

SteelTank wrote:Is it me or does the signing of Farrior and franchising of Starks seem very unnecessary at this point? We need to extend Harrison now.. Woodley and Timmonswill be wanting(and will deserve) big extensions in a couple of years. McFad could have been had on the cheap it sounds like to me and I'm thinking Starks and Farrior are overpriced average players...
If we had a tad bit more cap-room then maybe a deal gets done for McFad.

Makes me wonder if the NFL will become un-capped for good in the coming years or the CAP will explode to 150 million or something. Maybe this makes the signing of Farrior and probably a long-term deal for Starks not so bad over the long haul. I hope Colbert and the Steeler brain-trust have more of a feel for the coming increase in the size CAP and the likelyhood of no CAP over the coming years. Once there isn't a CAP in a given year, it would seem that the CAP, if re-instated, would have to elevated quit a bit.

McFad will do very well in Zona, who, by the way, is looking better all the time for next year.

With the Steelers playing a weak schedule - Could it be a re-match?



Starks has one ring at right tackle and one ring at left tackle and coming into his prime. Farrior has been one of the most consistent LBs on roster since the day he was signed and also has started on two SB teams not to mention some of the best defenses. Define average!
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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby steelmoney » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:03 pm

lloydrules wrote:When have you seen B-Mack do anything but look like an outstanding CB? Even when he's beat it's by inches. He never misses a tackle. He's made great plays when it matters most (post season as a rookie in 2005). Pgh couldn't have given him a 4-year deal and have kept him? This makes no sense. B-Mack was hardly just a 3rd CB. And someone said this changes the draft. Well, it better not change us taking at least 2 OLmen in the first 4 picks, if not 3.

And we need a DE as well. Smith is 33. Plus Hampton is nearing the end of the road.

1. BPA other than QB, RB, OLB
2. Best OL
3. Best OL/DE
4. Best whatever position not taken at 3.



the only things that makes sense (about the lack of interest in b-mac) are he over-shot with his asking price and the teams with real needs at CB filled them with other FAs or the fact that he missed 6 games scared some people off (remember even when he came back he could keep gay off the field)

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby lloydrules » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:57 pm

steelmoney wrote:
lloydrules wrote:When have you seen B-Mack do anything but look like an outstanding CB? Even when he's beat it's by inches. He never misses a tackle. He's made great plays when it matters most (post season as a rookie in 2005). Pgh couldn't have given him a 4-year deal and have kept him? This makes no sense. B-Mack was hardly just a 3rd CB. And someone said this changes the draft. Well, it better not change us taking at least 2 OLmen in the first 4 picks, if not 3.

And we need a DE as well. Smith is 33. Plus Hampton is nearing the end of the road.

1. BPA other than QB, RB, OLB
2. Best OL
3. Best OL/DE
4. Best whatever position not taken at 3.



the only things that makes sense (about the lack of interest in b-mac) are he over-shot with his asking price and the teams with real needs at CB filled them with other FAs or the fact that he missed 6 games scared some people off (remember even when he came back he could keep gay off the field)


I don't think any of the CB FAs signed were as good as B Mack. I don't know why he wasn't coveted more to be honest. I really don't. He's never been in trouble. He's been solid on the field his entire career. Quality CBs are hard to find. I just don't like this. I'm not saying the sky is falling, but I believe this is one of those rare instances where Pgh let a quality player get away that they could have kept for less than top $. Had he got signed for premium cost, then I'd be OK with him leaving. But he got a relatively weak deal, IMO. Why not offer him similar $ for more years? Unless he actually _wanted_ a shorter deal thinking he can bank bigger $ later. That would be the only thing that would make sense but that's unlikely.

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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby Nel » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:51 pm

lloydrules wrote:
Nel wrote:
IronCity__Man wrote:Hard to keep a team going while watching 2nd round talent slip away. Frustrating. I am shocked at the two-year deal. I would imagine the steelers would not go past 4 or 4.5 - AZ really threw out the big bait.

Now we need a high draft pick corner in a year when we should be drafting O and D lineman in the first two rounds. Then we will draft another Anthony Smith.


Gloom, doom .... bah. I have faith.


Oh that means losing B-Mack is a good thing, since you have faith and all. :suahhbs:


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Re: McFadden a Cardinal

Postby dracula in cleats » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:11 pm

I am disappointed...but knowing we have Lebeau and Tomlin...i am pretty sure they will find a way to keep the D tight....I just hate that we had to be the patient ones...give him time to develop...and now the cards get him...I do not believe he will excel at the cards...and then he will be wanting to come back to the Stillers in two years...I don't think we should take him then. ha

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