View topic - Where is the Dick LeBeau Fan club today ??

[StillMill Profile]

The Cards have been just about unstoppable the past month and we did get burned by them a bit... just not as much as other teams.

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

Yards vs Atl 357
Yards vs Car 360
Yards vs Phi 369
Yards vs Pit 407

Well, there ya go. Evidently, it's how many YARDS you give up that matters, not how many POINTS.
That must be the case, because that brilliant post garnered an invitation to join the "staff" here.
Lesson learned - agree with Mill; you just might get an invite. OTOH, disagree with Mill at your peril; you just might be labeled an ignorant dumbf*ck.

Oh, ya wanna talk about POINTS, eh ?? Well then, how about THE BIGGEST CHOKE JOB in Super Bowl history, in terms of POINTS ALLOWED after a 13-point 4Q lead ?? How 'bout the 23 points given up in only 27 minutes of TOP ??

Lesson learned: Believe all the bullshit newspaper articles about all the greatness of Dick "Gilligan" LeBeau, and IGNORE what actually happened on the field.

Another lesson learned: Make sense here on the board with cogent, sensible input, and you'll indeed get invited to join the staff. Babble incoherently with bullshit fallacy and lard-filled tripe -- like you do -- and you'll be laughed at and then ignored.

[StainlessStill Profile]

*clapping*

Nice attempt to make me feel like am imbecile. Here you are calling me clueless but the joke is on you dude. Listen, the days of you trying to rule people are over. Just because you run this site doesn't mean your style of fan is the way it goes.. in fact, it's fans like you that make me want to puke. I'm no Cryboy fan, and I'm even more stubborn than you are. "Rants and quibbling" (what does that even mean? quibbling what a gay way to describe) is what you started in the first place stupid ass.

And who are these "we" forgiving me for being a stupid fuck? To my understanding there is only what? 1 or 2 people that agreed with your sorry ass about a Super Bowl winning defense in this fuckin thread. I've been a member here for as long as I can remember, and know how you operate. The Gildong reports were hilarious, and I've laughed many times at your pointless observations, because that's what they are, pointless. I love this place because it isn't happy go lucky Steelers.com, but the way you attack is immature and makes you sound like a Bengals fan.

Way to FAIL as a Stillers fan.

Uh, we weren't trying to "make" you feel like an imbecile. Given the fact that yer already an imbecile, it would be imprudent for us to "try to make you feel" like one. We assume you're used to feeling like an imbecile and that you rather enjoy being one.

The "we" that forgives you for being a stupidfuk ranges well over 100, judging from the various emails I've received.

Way to fail as a poster here at Stillers.com. And remember, if ya don't like it here, run along to the faggott dweebs over at Steelers.com, or SteelerGayNation.

I bet.. of those 100+, gay lovers and family (meaning your step-family because your legal parents probably disowned you) do NOT count. I'm glad the cock suckers decided to polish your pipe. They probably did it because they want to be apart of your "staff" and not talk real football other than "wah wah" football.

I will stoop to your level and be a child and go back and forth with you because A.) This is fun. B.) You're a fan failure and C.) Your comebacks are moronic and make my reply's easier. I always came here to talk football and read some nice input from great Stillers Fans.

I must say from all of the other posters, I enjoy this place (meaning the message boards), because I haven't read your posts on the front page in years other than who wins Hard Hat. Translation, you suck. (I'm sure the other 100+ will disagree and polish your knob but that's a given) I am not going anywhere unless you be a pussy and ban me. Sucks that you made this thread a war of words just because you got beat like a red headed step child that you are today, and need to bitch and moan about LeBeau because he gave up 407 yards in a winning effort. How dumb can one fan be, I don't know, but you, sir, are a fuckin moron!

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[StillMill Profile]

The only thing you'll stoop to is stooping over and getting it in the poop chute from your butty, ie, your boyfriend. From what we've been told, you've got the practice of stooping over down to an art.

Enjoy your vacay, StainlessStillaDumfuk. Drop us a postcard when ya get the chance.

[d_iris Profile]

i'm with mill. dicky "the turtle head" lebeau folded. whiz was probably licking his chops watching the old timer play patty-cake with warner, fitz, boldin, and co. nothing says wuss like a softy, prevent defense.

[StillViews Profile]

This post is too funny. Typical Mill - always the instigator. If anyone is interested in taking this thread in a different direction here we go:

Pick a new Defensive Coordinator for the Steelers. This is your stage for naming the next coordinator and defending your choice with reasoning, statistics, examples etc.

Rules: You must pick a current or recent NFL Defensive Coordinator. Give rationale as to why he would be a better defensive coordinator for the Steelers. NO picking college coaches or Buddy Ryan from the 1980's. This has to be a NFL coach that could be for hire. There are some good coaches out there. Which one do you want to replace LeBeau and why?

[StillMill Profile]

i'm with mill. dicky "the turtle head" lebeau folded. whiz was probably licking his chops watching the old timer play patty-cake with warner, fitz, boldin, and co. nothing says wuss like a softy, prevent defense.

Well stated, Donnie ! Indeed, Dick folded like a cheap lawn chair.

Keep up the good work, Donnie.

[StillMill Profile]

This post is too funny. Typical Mill - always the instigator. If anyone is interested in taking this thread in a different direction here we go:

Pick a new Defensive Coordinator for the Steelers. This is your stage for naming the next coordinator and defending your choice with reasoning, statistics, examples etc.

Rules: You must pick a current or recent NFL Defensive Coordinator. Give rationale as to why he would be a better defensive coordinator for the Steelers. NO picking college coaches or Buddy Ryan from the 1980's. This has to be a NFL coach that could be for hire. There are some good coaches out there. Which one do you want to replace LeBeau and why?

This post is too stupid. Typical Views - always the babbler.

Your little game is, not surprsingly, absurd. The UP AND COMING coach that you'd WANT to hire for a DC, would most likely not be a current DC. He'd be an oustanding, highly regarded LB coach, or DL coach, or secondary coach. You know, kind of like Tomlin was JUST BEFORE he was hired to be the Viking DC.

Next ??

[Todd Profile]

by the 3rd quarter, they had scored 7 points and given up 7 points in the SB. They gave up a good drive to the Cards and made them earn 7 in the 4th. Then gave up 1 big play to Fitz. This was the highest scoring offense in the league, and I believe they handled it well with the exception of that one big catch by Fitz. And remember, 2 points were on the offense.

[StillMill Profile]

by the 3rd quarter, they had scored 7 points and given up 7 points in the SB. They gave up a good drive to the Cards and made them earn 7 in the 4th. Then gave up 1 big play to Fitz. This was the highest scoring offense in the league, and I believe they handled it well with the exception of that one big catch by Fitz. And remember, 2 points were on the offense.

Uh, sorry, Todd....yer a day late and a dollar short.

As we've already shown, no other AZ playoff opponent got SHREDDED the way Provalone Dick's defense did:

Yards vs Atl 357
Yards vs Car 360
Yards vs Phi 369
Yards vs Pit 407

Those opponents did allow AZ to score some points.....MUCH of which was aided -- as we've already shown -- by a plethora of TURNOVERS by the Falcs, Panthers, and Eagles. In only 27 minutes of TOP, the Cards manged 21 points on Gilligan LeBeau. Had they had the ball for a half-decent amount of, say, 32 minutes, who the hell knows how many points the Cards may have scored. 30? 35?

It all adds up to a dismal showing for Dick "The Dullard LeBeau", and no amount of quibbling by the Dick Fan Club can put lipstick on this pig.

[Jeemie Profile]

Three Super Bowls...2 Super Bowl championships...7 AFCCG appearances....12 playoff appearances...in 17 seasons.

What an amazing run in a time where every one of our main coaches sucked!

Imagine if they had been any good!

We would have had 17 rings...and probably at least six undefeated seasons!

[StillViews Profile]

This post is too funny. Typical Mill - always the instigator. If anyone is interested in taking this thread in a different direction here we go:

Pick a new Defensive Coordinator for the Steelers. This is your stage for naming the next coordinator and defending your choice with reasoning, statistics, examples etc.

Rules: You must pick a current or recent NFL Defensive Coordinator. Give rationale as to why he would be a better defensive coordinator for the Steelers. NO picking college coaches or Buddy Ryan from the 1980's. This has to be a NFL coach that could be for hire. There are some good coaches out there. Which one do you want to replace LeBeau and why?

This post is too stupid. Typical Views - always the babbler.

Your little game is, not surprsingly, absurd. The UP AND COMING coach that you'd WANT to hire for a DC, would most likely not be a current DC. He'd be an oustanding, highly regarded LB coach, or DL coach, or secondary coach. You know, kind of like Tomlin was JUST BEFORE he was hired to be the Viking DC.

Next ??

You are missing the point. We on this website can't hire anybody so why bother speculating which LB coach might make a good DC for the Steelers. I'd like to understand which proven DC would fit better as the Steeler DC. Are you saying that although LeBeau is far from perfect there are NO experienced OTHER DC's or former DC'sthat you would rather have in place of Dick LeBeau? Dom Capers, Ron Rivera, Either of the Ryan brothers, Jim Johnson...

[StillMill Profile]

You are missing the point. We on this website can't hire anybody so why bother speculating which LB coach might make a good DC for the Steelers. I'd like to understand which proven DC would fit better as the Steeler DC. Are you saying that although LeBeau is far from perfect there are NO experienced OTHER DC's or former DC'sthat you would rather have in place of Dick LeBeau? Dom Capers, Ron Rivera, Either of the Ryan brothers, Jim Johnson...

I'll type more s-l-o-w-l-y this time, so that you can understand.

I have no interest in looking at RETREADS to replace DickLick LeBeau. None. So, it was be a colossal WASTE of my time to sit here mulling over "which DC I would have in place of Dick". I don't want a retread to replace Dick. I want the next Mike Tomlin, who is most likely a current LB, DL, DB, or ST coach.

[StillViews Profile]

You are missing the point. We on this website can't hire anybody so why bother speculating which LB coach might make a good DC for the Steelers. I'd like to understand which proven DC would fit better as the Steeler DC. Are you saying that although LeBeau is far from perfect there are NO experienced OTHER DC's or former DC'sthat you would rather have in place of Dick LeBeau? Dom Capers, Ron Rivera, Either of the Ryan brothers, Jim Johnson...

I'll type more s-l-o-w-l-y this time, so that you can understand.

I have no interest in looking at RETREADS to replace DickLick LeBeau. None. So, it was be a colossal WASTE of my time to sit here mulling over "which DC I would have in place of Dick". I don't want a retread to replace Dick. I want the next Mike Tomlin, who is most likely a current LB, DL, DB, or ST coach.

I COMPLETELY understand. Your comments about LeBeau can at least be taken in relation for your feeling about other DC's in the league. Although LeBeau in your opinion is a buffoon you will take that buffoon over any of the qualified, experienced coaches in the league. You wouldn't want: Tony Dungy, Bill Belichick, Romeo Crennel, Jim Johnson, Ron Rivera, Dom Capers, Bill Sheridan, Ron Meeks, Jim Schwartz, Rob or Rex Ryan, Leslie Frazier.

BTW - Mike Tomlin was a CLASSIC cover-2 defensive coordinator who learned his craft from some of the retreads you wouldn't hire. In 2006 as Defensive Coordinator Mike T rarely called for a blitz or man to man coverage. Softee cover 2 zone/keep the play in front of you was his defensive philosophy. He did inherit some unbelievably gifted players on that Vikings team and put together a successful, albeit imperfect body of work in 2006. Are you sure you would hire Mike Tomlin as your defensive coordinator? It seems like a complete contradiction to choose a coordinator that only has experience with cover 2/softee zone.

There is no pleasing you Mr Mill. There never was and never will be a perfect coach - not Bud Carsen, Bill Belichick, Tony Dungy, Chuck Noll, Woody Widenhofer, Vince Lombardi or Dick LeBeau. These coaches should be judged by the body of their work vs. single plays, single quarters or even single games in order to establish any claim to greatness or buffoonery.

Please feel free to get the last word in - after all this is your "sand box".

[Todd Profile]

Yards vs Atl 357
Yards vs Car 360
Yards vs Phi 369
Yards vs Pit 407

Actually, this shows they all did get shredded. Every single defense gave up over 350 yards. A difference of 50 yards is negligible.

How 'bout the 23 points given up in only 27 minutes of TOP ??

First of all, our defense didnt give up 23 points, they gave up 21. Second, when Ben threw a pick in a bad position at the end of the half, they singlehandedly created a 14 point swing. Ben created that drive for Arizona, and Lebeau took it away and added 7 of his own.

Our offense only scored 20 points, gave up 2 and almost another 7, our defense scored 7, took away a sure scoring drive at the end of the half, (A half in which Fitz had all of 1 catch for 12 yards (nate washington numbers), and then finished it off with a strip of Warner when he was at the 40 yard line with a chance to win the game. Its a good thing we had that choker defense to come up with two huge turnovers on drives that would have decided the game. I'm not gonna discourage you from your patented hating of your own team, but at least pretend to be educated about it.

The Steelers gave up a ton of yards because they played Clark and Troy deep and gave up a bunch of yards in the flat. That scheme worked for the entire game with the exception of one play (kind of like the 05 game against Indy)

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=260115011

Game was almost identical, but everyone praised the D after that. And people like you are saying they choked, despite making turnovers that decided the game.

[StillMill Profile]

Yards vs Atl 357
Yards vs Car 360
Yards vs Phi 369
Yards vs Pit 407

Actually, this shows they all did get shredded. Every single defense gave up over 350 yards. A difference of 50 yards is negligible.

How 'bout the 23 points given up in only 27 minutes of TOP ??

First of all, our defense didnt give up 23 points, they gave up 21. Second, when Ben threw a pick in a bad position at the end of the half, they singlehandedly created a 14 point swing. Ben created that drive for Arizona, and Lebeau took it away and added 7 of his own.

Our offense only scored 20 points, gave up 2 and almost another 7, our defense scored 7, took away a sure scoring drive at the end of the half, (A half in which Fitz had all of 1 catch for 12 yards (nate washington numbers), and then finished it off with a strip of Warner when he was at the 40 yard line with a chance to win the game. Its a good thing we had that choker defense to come up with two huge turnovers on drives that would have decided the game. I'm not gonna discourage you from your patented hating of your own team, but at least pretend to be educated about it.

Nice try, Todd...but yer quibbling and making up bullshit excuses. They DID get shredded. Those OTHER teams got SOME shredding -- not as bad, of course -- primarily because of the HUGE disparity in TURNOVERS (Carol. had 6 TOs, the other 2 opponents had 3). It's rather easy for an opposing offense to gain lots of yards, and points, when the opposing idiots turn the ball over SIX times.

Fact is, Dick's defense shit the bed in the 4th quarter -- precisely when games are WON or LOST. They choked up a 13-point lead, primarily with softee, no-brained schemes. They also shit the bed in the 2Q, getting CAUGHT in their base defense on a 2d & 7, then rushing only THREE men, and giving up a 40-yard play to our 1-yard line that led to a cake-easy score.

You can quibble and rationalize all you want, but the facts are the facts......and ya can't paint lipstick on a pig.

[Teegre Profile]

They also shit the bed in the 2Q, getting CAUGHT in their base defense on a 2d & 7, then rushing only THREE men, and giving up a 40-yard play to our 1-yard line that led to a cake-easy score.

Absolutely, the three man rush was not a good idea (as many have posted before & after the game)...
...but, another factor to consider is Fitz.
Simply the Steelers were not going to allow Fitz to score on them. They stuck to this ideology the entire first half...and it worked out fairly well.

For example, on the aforemntioned 40 yard play to Boldin, if one watches carefully, Polamalu does not even take a glance over at Boldin as Boldin runs down the field...in fact, Polamalu actually has his back to him.
Why?
Polamalu was responsible for double-covering Fitz on every play in the first half.

Of course, in the second half, for whatever reason, Polamalu broke his double-coverage on Fitz, and erroneously double-covered the receivers running out patterns. In turn, Fitz had a field day, best exemplified by his 65 yard romp for an easy score. Anyway, I already posted about the second half at the end of page two.

I think we can all agree:
1) The three man rush has not worked all season...and it sure was not about to work against the Cardinals.

2) Whatever Polamalu was doing in the first half to stop Fitz was working; that should not have been altered in the second half (i.e. Polamalu should have been doubling Fitz on every play). [Note: as I mentioned in the earlier post, it is ambigous as to whether the game-plan was altered, or whether Polamalu simply broke coverage.]

[smheart78 Profile]

23 points - 7 point swing by the Stiller Defense (good call to drop Harrison against his wishes?) = 16 points, 16 points - 2 points for the Saftey = 14 points.
Right? sure, they got shredded for yards and choked away a 13 point lead in the 4th, but only actually gave up 14 points?

I wouldn't consider this quibbling, but the Defense, any defense, deserves to have these 9 points count for them? No? They earned 7 and didn't cause the safety.

So holding the hottest offense to 14 points ain't so bad.

[StillMill Profile]

23 points - 7 point swing by the Stiller Defense (good call to drop Harrison against his wishes?) = 16 points, 16 points - 2 points for the Saftey = 14 points.
Right? sure, they got shredded for yards and choked away a 13 point lead in the 4th, but only actually gave up 14 points?

I wouldn't consider this quibbling, but the Defense, any defense, deserves to have these 9 points count for them? No? They earned 7 and didn't cause the safety.

So holding the hottest offense to 14 points ain't so bad.

Nice try, but no soup. Dick fully gave up 21 (TWENTY ONE) points. You can give PARTIAL credit to Dick for the INT, but the return that scored 7 points had NOTHING to do with Dick's scheming. Nothing. That INT was simply an unreal INDIVIDUAL effort by Harrison, along with 4-5 playrs who threw good blocks and the 6 or 7 players on AZ that gaggled and loafed on this play.

[smheart78 Profile]

Still, good point.
But if your're going to deny the individual effort that made the score on defense, you can't deny the individual failures on the defense. Sure, horrible paly call 22 yards off the LOS, but an individual failure to not make the tackle made that a touchdown and not simply a 15 yard gain to the 45. Couple that with the individual failures for the touchdown catches...but this doesn't take away from your point that ultimately 21 points were given up (mostly in the 4th quarter when it counted).
But, as you said, 21 points given up. 21 points to a Red Hot offense is acceptable, even good, though not the mark of great.

[Todd Profile]

Exactly. Mill wont conceed defeat because his main attribute for winning arguments is unyeilding ignorance.

But, if you arent going to credit Lebeau for putting Harrison in position to make the pick, even though an abnormal amount of INTs at the goalline turn into TDs, then you cant blame him for Ike Taylor's diving missed tackle on Fitz. Ike is much faster than him, and had Ike stayed on his feet and just caught up and tackled him, it would have only been a 20 yard gain. Yet, Ike's boneheaded move is Lebeau's fault, and Harrison's miraculous return is not credited to Lebeau. This is after you charge the defense for giving up those 2 points when they weren't on the field.

Let me know when you're ready to start rooting for the Pittsburgh Steelers.