View topic - Where is the Dick LeBeau Fan club today ??

[McLovin Profile]

Uh, you're talking about the defense that got SHREDDED in the 4th quarter and CHOKED AWAY a 13-point LEAD, which would have been THE biggest choke job in Sup Bowl history in terms of the size lead coughed up ??

"The championship would not have been possible" without the heroics of Ben and Tonio. Period. Dick actually PREVENTED the title from being won.....and Ben/Tonio bailed his ass out.

Next ?? Any other rationalizations from The Dick's ?

Deeeeep Breathes McLovin...Deeeeep Breathes McLovin...if, if, if. IT's only a choke job IF they actually choke. What kind of Steeler fan are you Mill? McLovin appreciates the site, but holy misplaced negativity bro! The players were in on that alleged what-if choke job as well as your hero Mike Tomlin...that's right Mill...LeBeau and any other coach can't wipe his ass without the head coach telling him how he wants the defense to be called in a given situation...nevermind you're operating on another level of assaholic for ripping LeBeau post 6th Super Bowl win

[Nel Profile]

I've not heard a peep from Dick's loyalists..... Where are they ?

They are digesting crow.

[Steve0212 Profile]

I guess winning is not enough around here. I'm a Lebeau fan all and out. To place the toughest NFL schedule, win the AFC Central, and win it all?? Hard to do that with a dufus at DC. Let's look at the total points allowed per week.

17, 6, 15, 20, 21, 10, 21, 6, 24, 10, 10, 10, 13, 9, 31, 0

16 games, and in 9 of those the opponent never got over 14 points. That allows an offense that does not score a lot of points to win games. I don't believe there's anyone that could have done a better job than Dick did. Everyone makes mistakes at times, even Dick. Are you perfect Still?

I'm one happy Stiller fan right now and no one can change that.

[Nittany Steel37 Profile]

Dick LeBeau = Hall of Famer
Mill = basement blogger

[Jeemie Profile]

Please......anyone know the whereabouts of Dick's Fan Club ??

They're all at the parade today celebrating the Superbowl championship that wouldn't have been possible without his defense.

Uh, you're talking about the defense that got SHREDDED in the 4th quarter and CHOKED AWAY a 13-point LEAD, which would have been THE biggest choke job in Sup Bowl history in terms of the size lead coughed up ??

"The championship would not have been possible" without the heroics of Ben and Tonio. Period. Dick actually PREVENTED the title from being won.....and Ben/Tonio bailed his ass out.

Next ?? Any other rationalizations from The Dick's ?

Considering how many times the defense bailed the offense's ass out during the regular season, I'd say that makes the two squads even.

And they do not win the Super Bowl without a 100-yard INT that LeBeau's defense BAITED Warner into throwing.

I'm as disappointed as any that the defense wilted in the 4th Quarter...but the team won the goddam game!

Shit happens, Mill. Nobody's perfect 100% of the time.

You say it was scheme. Aside from that one defense, the scheme was sound. It was the EXECUTION that sucked.

You say "LeBeau had a pathetic three-man rush for all the big plays the cards made".

They were blitzing on the Fitz TD, and on the Boldin big gain, I saw Foote and McFadden running almost side by side down the field. Unless that's some new sort of defensive wrinkle, I'd say someone missed their coverage assignment, and Boldin's gain had NOTHING to do with a three-man rush.

Chill, dude...we won! You'll have plenty of time next season to whip on LeBeau and Farrior and Hampton.

Maybe you can start the Dick's Dong Report next year...that'll make you happy, right?

[El Nino Profile]

Next ?? Any other rationalizations from The Dick's ?

I totally agree. let me break it down for you dicks

james 'taunto' farrior aka the winged god of linebacker coverage, like some kind of homosexual, didn't cover fitzgerald on his 65 yd touchdown. why he doesn't run a 3.8 in the 40 and is playing in today's nfl is just total horse shit and kevin colbert needs to get the stick out of his ass for signing this guy.

he would not be outdone, larry 'slow a foote' took a shitty angle on fitz as he was in perfect position to prevent the touchdown being 30 yards away from the ball. why he gave up on that play, i don't understand.

timmons got juked out of his trousers but that's ok, he's lawrence timmons. he overpersued and took much too wide angles on his blitzes, but that's ok, he's lawrence timmons. he missed a tackle on a play, but that's okay, he's lawrence timmons. did i mention he's lawrence timmons?

Woodley got quadruple teamed by the LT, Center, and LG, and FB, while getting chipped by boldin and spach. that's the only reason why he didnt get a sack on that play. He was drawing quadruple teams the entire game, but should have gotten at least 6 sacks in a very bobby boucher-esque fashion. i forgive him for now, but who knows, 6 years later ill be calling him mr. dong sack or the 40 million dollar floppy gilded dong

James Harrison gets an A for being James Harrison

farrior: F-, foote: Z, Woodley: A-, Timmons: A+++, Harrison: A

[StillMill Profile]

McLovin... "if, if, if. IT's only a choke job IF they actually choke." Uh, news to McLovin: YES, they actually fuking CHOKED. Not sure if ya noticed, but the defense gave up a 13-point lead in the 4Q and GAVE AWAY the lead to the Cards.

Considering how many times the defense bailed the offense's ass out during the regular season, I'd say that makes the two squads even.

And they do not win the Super Bowl without a 100-yard INT that LeBeau's defense BAITED Warner into throwing.

I'm as disappointed as any that the defense wilted in the 4th Quarter...but the team won the goddam game!

Shit happens, Mill. Nobody's perfect 100% of the time.

You say it was scheme. Aside from that one defense, the scheme was sound. It was the EXECUTION that sucked.

You say "LeBeau had a pathetic three-man rush for all the big plays the cards made".

They were blitzing on the Fitz TD, and on the Boldin big gain, I saw Foote and McFadden running almost side by side down the field. Unless that's some new sort of defensive wrinkle, I'd say someone missed their coverage assignment, and Boldin's gain had NOTHING to do with a three-man rush.

Chill, dude...we won! You'll have plenty of time next season to whip on LeBeau and Farrior and Hampton.

Maybe you can start the Dick's Dong Report next year...that'll make you happy, right?

Bullshit -- LeBau HIMSELF stated that this play was ALL HARRISON, and they he (LeBlow) had little to do with it.

Don't fuking MIS-QUOTE me, please, Dumfuk. I never, ever stated, "LeBeau had a pathetic three-man rush for all the big plays the cards made". Not once did I state that, dumfuk. What I very clearly stated was the 45-yard play by Boldin was the RESULT of a 3-man rush, which is was. GO WATCH THE TAPE of the game, dumfuk.

[SteelTyranny Profile]

That was an awful lot of yardage to give up in the passing game. But, you knew you weren't going to be able to keep them down all game. A great call the last play of the half though! That call and a great indiviual and team effort put 7 on the board. They could have been going into the locker room down 14-10. So, that call could have won the game for them. That forth quarter bothered me as well. But, certainly not the ending! You can't get every call right, and not every play will be executed to perfection. Without LeBeau I don't even think the Steelers would have been playing Sunday, let alone win the Super Bowl. It wasn't perfect, but it was a great game and all is right in MY world anyway. The right team won and I couldn't be happier.

[Jeemie Profile]

Bullshit -- LeBau HIMSELF stated that this play was ALL HARRISON, and they he (LeBlow) had little to do with it.

I don't believe it...there was nowhere or Harrison to be rushing. I think Dick's being a little coy.

Don't fuking MIS-QUOTE me, please, Dumfuk. I never, ever stated, "LeBeau had a pathetic three-man rush for all the big plays the cards made". Not once did I state that, dumfuk. What I very clearly stated was the 45-yard play by Boldin was the RESULT of a 3-man rush, which is was. GO WATCH THE TAPE of the game, dumfuk.

No- the play happened because, as I said, someone missed their coverage assignment.

Unless you think LeBeau designed a coverage scheme that has a LBer and a CB running downfield side by side.

[JimPgh1 Profile]

Here's the thing, Mill. You've been denigrating LeBeau all season and finally the other team scores a whole 21 points on the defense and now that makes it obvious that he's a bum?

In reality, the defense carried the team most of the season. And, BTW, the other guys get paid as well. The Cards scored over 30 points in all their other playoff games.

[SteelTank Profile]

As you pointed out - Troy P had a horrible game. This and the weak offensive strategy after the first two drives of the game gave Zona too many opportunities to score and it finally caught up to Pittsburgh in the 4th where Troy totally blew his read on the long Fitz TD run.

Add in the fact that Dirty Harry and Woodley where held virtually the entire game and Dick was fine in this game. Could have been better in some respects but his decision to blitz and drop Harrison at the end of the half lead to the interception.

Good call by Dick to send Woodley and Timmons to pressure Warner on the most crucial play of the game. The pressure lead directly to Warner making a hasty throw and to James making his historic run. Dick put his players in position to make a play and they did.

Again, Troy P was aweful. Can't blame Dick for that. Besides, the game should have been well in hand by the 4th - only giving 7 points to the Cardinal offense for 3 quarters is very impressive. Just like last years game, the defenses get tired and it gets easier to score in the 4th. True of almost any game.

Cut Dick a break - he certainly isn't as bad as you wan't him to be.

[catesinator Profile]

Please......anyone know the whereabouts of Dick's Fan Club ??

They're all at the parade today celebrating the Superbowl championship that wouldn't have been possible without his defense.

Uh, you're talking about the defense that got SHREDDED in the 4th quarter and CHOKED AWAY a 13-point LEAD, which would have been THE biggest choke job in Sup Bowl history in terms of the size lead coughed up ??

"The championship would not have been possible" without the heroics of Ben and Tonio. Period. Dick actually PREVENTED the title from being won.....and Ben/Tonio bailed his ass out.

Next ?? Any other rationalizations from The Dick's ?

Umm yeah the Steelers wouldn't have been in the superbowl, AFCC game, playoffs or have won their own division without Lebeau's defense. What got them that far, their 22nd ranked offense and offensive guru Bruce Arians?

[copeforpope Profile]

The other team I watch as much as the Steelers is the Bears (I live in Chicago), and I can say with no hesitation that they'd love to have a DC who gets the results that LeBeau gets with the Steeler D. They just switched to HC Lovie Smith calling plays because the Bears DC (Bob Babich) sucked so badly this year, with the softest coverage and saddest schemes you've ever seen. The Bears were regularly toasted for deep balls and 12-yard runs up the middle.

I'm sure the other 31 teams who didn't just win the Super Bowl wouldn't mind Dick's expertise or a defense that played like the Steelers did.

It's a testament to how spoiled we are as Steeler fans that I'm reading a thread like this three days after the Super Bowl and not a thread titled "HOLY FUCKING SHIT WE ONLY WON FOUR GAMES THIS YEAR I WANT TO RIP MY OWN GUTS OUT" or somesuch.

I know that Stillers.com is well known for finding stuff to criticize no matter what, but to me, this sounds like someone complaining about Patton and Eisenhower on V-E Day.

[StainlessStill Profile]

I think you're taking LeBeau's defense for granted, Mill.

Everyone forgets the mess he cleaned up after Timmy Lewis left the booth. Since 2004, the Stillers defense have been TOP NOTCH because of this guy. The most important part about his coaching style is the way he bonds with his players. Look at the unity. Look at the family. There's more to coaching than X's and O's, and there's only one thing you can look at, and that's results.

You know we did hold an explosive offense to just 7 points for three quarters, and we did it in nice fashion. Sure the game plan had its patches, but that's the way the plays were meant to be had. Give them the short yardage, but don't get beat on intermediate or the deep ball. On every play they out gained us, was because of coverage breakdowns, period. The two touchdowns they scored.. one to the Tight End, and one to Fitz on the fade were just athlete versus athlete. Our guys were in position but we got out manned.

That 67 yarder to Fitzgerald was them spotting the hole in the defense, and attacking it. As you can see, we were in position. Ike came up and played aggressive, and got beat with separation at the last second. We had many guys with shots at Fitz, but the separation from Ike was too much, leaving our guys out of position. Ike needed to make that play, and didn't, but he was indeed there.

We can go about this all day. Point is the Cards had the ball last, we stopped them, and we took home the trophy, all in the midst of one of the best defensive showings of a season since the 2000 Ravens. I don't see where the complaining is about. If the offense wise's up for next season, than this unit will be even better, then you will really see what Dick has to offer.

[StillMill Profile]

I think you're taking LeBeau's defense for granted, Mill.

Everyone forgets the mess he cleaned up after Timmy Lewis left the booth. Since 2004, the Stillers defense have been TOP NOTCH because of this guy. The most important part about his coaching style is the way he bonds with his players. Look at the unity. Look at the family. There's more to coaching than X's and O's, and there's only one thing you can look at, and that's results.

You know we did hold an explosive offense to just 7 points for three quarters, and we did it in nice fashion. Sure the game plan had its patches, but that's the way the plays were meant to be had. Give them the short yardage, but don't get beat on intermediate or the deep ball. On every play they out gained us, was because of coverage breakdowns, period. The two touchdowns they scored.. one to the Tight End, and one to Fitz on the fade were just athlete versus athlete. Our guys were in position but we got out manned.

That 67 yarder to Fitzgerald was them spotting the hole in the defense, and attacking it. As you can see, we were in position. Ike came up and played aggressive, and got beat with separation at the last second. We had many guys with shots at Fitz, but the separation from Ike was too much, leaving our guys out of position. Ike needed to make that play, and didn't, but he was indeed there.

We can go about this all day. Point is the Cards had the ball last, we stopped them, and we took home the trophy, all in the midst of one of the best defensive showings of a season since the 2000 Ravens. I don't see where the complaining is about. If the offense wise's up for next season, than this unit will be even better, then you will really see what Dick has to offer.

Sorry, but you're babbling and quibbling. FACT is, Gilligan LeBeau FELL ASLEEP in the 4Q and got tooled and schooled. He then places his safeties on an ISLAND 22 yards off the LOS, like a total dumfuck, and LOSES the lead late in the 4Q. Were it not for the heroics of Ben and Tonio, we LOSE the game, THANKS to Dick "Gilligan" LeBeau. And no amount of bullshit quibbling and excuse making by you can erase that FACT.

[darthsteel Profile]

on the final td both safeties broke off to the outside, till further comformation its on the players for making those decisions.

[BoltX Profile]

oh puh-lease...

wtf mill. It was fun to watch. Really, love to read your infantile rants sometimes - I still refer to our old #92 as GilDong... ROFL.

You entertain. Accept it. We DO NOT come here for the "insight" (although you might think we do)! We come to have FUN and be entertained.

Dick did a fine job, until our offense sputtered, and Cards put together a few possessions together - defense got slowfooted, a few bad calls (3 perhaps 4).

How come you don't talk about 1 and 10 inside the 10 yardline, and Stillers can't score on ARIZONA CARDINALS?!?!?!?

Crap. Don't care. Dick did fine. We are just lucky - and WE ALL KNOW IT - that there are only a handfull of teams in NFL that can spread and go 4/5 wides and chuck it quickly all night.

We played one of those on Sunday. And we freakin won!

[SteelTyranny Profile]

on the final td both safeties broke off to the outside, till further comformation its on the players for making those decisions.

....and they both broke outside with Warner staring the play down the whole time. He never even looked them off!

[StillMill Profile]

oh puh-lease...

wtf mill. It was fun to watch. Really, love to read your infantile rants sometimes - I still refer to our old #92 as GilDong... ROFL.

You entertain. Accept it. We DO NOT come here for the "insight" (although you might think we do)! We come to have FUN and be entertained.

Dick did a fine job, until our offense sputtered, and Cards put together a few possessions together - defense got slowfooted, a few bad calls (3 perhaps 4).

We actually cater to two distinct groups of people here at Stillers.com, as follows:

1. The first group is the illiterate and ignorant. They, such as yerself, come here purely for fun and entertainment.

2. The other group is the bright, the sensical, and the intelligent. They come here for insight and analysis, and receive it in large doses.

Thanks for providing a perfect example so that we can convey this to our readership.

[Teegre Profile]

Bullshit -- LeBau HIMSELF stated that this play was ALL HARRISON, and they he (LeBlow) had little to do with it.

Mill, I disagree with you on this one.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80e97cd9

I partially agree with you on the rest of the game.

As far as the fourth quarter goes, here is what I saw:
1) The safeties were playing way, way back.
2) The safeties seemed to cut drastically towards the sidelines.

Why?
It appears that Pittsburgh's offense was trying to protect the sidelines, figuring that the Cardinals were going to try to keep as much time on the clock as possible, via short sideline out patterns. In turn, the Steelers appeared to be allowing underneath routes, and then keeping the WRs in bounds.

Let us use the 65 yard TD as an example.

When the WRs (Boldin & Breaston) broke outside, the safeties overpursued them...to keep those WRs from catching and running out of bounds (i.e. Pittsburgh was trying to keep the clock moving). The safeties left the middle of the field open, because they figured that if Arizona did throw to the middle, then that player would be tackled in bounds, and thus using up the clock.

That philosophy might have worked for most teams, and possibly even against the Cardinals.
But, but, but...
The problem was that Fitzgerlald was the player going across the middle (not Breaston or Boldin...who usually run acorss the middle).
In turn, this philospphy should have been abandoned/altered the very second that Fitz started running his route across the middle.

Simply, when Fitz ran his route across the middle, Polamalu should have neglected his "sideline" responsibilites, and doubled up on Fitz.

Alas, 65 yards too late, the Steelers learned their lesson.

Furthermore, Arizona had run this exact same play earlier in the game, against the same defense, and Polamalu doubled Fitz...albeit, since Fitz just happened to be one of the "sideline" WRs, Polamlu did not have to make a decision about who to cover. He double-covered Fitz, because Fitz went "sideline."

Again, when this play was run in the 4th quarter, Fitz ran his route inside. Ergo, the safety whose side Fitz was on (i.e. Polamalu) should have ignored his sideline responsibility...and doubled up Fitz.

Was it LeBeau's fault for not making it clear to Polamalu to double up on Fitz?
Did LeBeau's tell Polamalu to cover the sideline WR no matter what?
Or, was it Polamalu's misunderstanding of the play?

In other words, I am not sure who is to blame for that play, because it is ambiguous as to who was responsible for what. And, simply, this play is a microcosm for the entire fourth quarter.

In summation, it seems to be a mixture of:
-LeBeau's not making the correct calls
&
-the players not making the correct reads.