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The arguement for Arians

Postby oldschoolhunkie » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:11 am

It's simple: they just won the Super Bowl with a dog shit offensive line. It is an incredible accomplishment and everyone who pulled it off deserves kudos. Think about how weak the line clearly was from the start and then they lost two starters. and they managed to pull it off.

Also deserves kudos for having the stones to call those two passes out of the end zone... Hines dropped it on first down, which would have altered everything and then of course we had the safety on the lame hold call... butthatwas a great pass and catch -- and a brilliant call. You gotta give him that.

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Re: The arguement for Arians

Postby McLovin » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:24 am

Arians will likely stay...but FIRE LARRY PORN!!!

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Re: The arguement for Arians

Postby oldschoolhunkie » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:28 am

The thing is, do we really know how good these guys could possibly have been? it's certainly possible that no coach could have done better working with them...Great teams usually begin with the line.. winning it all with this crew is remarkable.

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Re: The arguement for Arians

Postby McLovin » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:37 am

oldschoolhunkie wrote:The thing is, do we really know how good these guys could possibly have been? it's certainly possible that no coach could have done better working with them...Great teams usually begin with the line.. winning it all with this crew is remarkable.

McLovin agrees the OL is soooo bad...easily bottom 3 in the league and the Steelers STILL won the Super Bowl. It is a testament of sorts to Arians that they won with this line, but isn't the OC responsible for the play of the entire offense? If Colbert upgrades this line to mediocre and finds them a COACH then Steelers cruise to a Super Bowl repeat!

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Re: The arguement for Arians

Postby FineLine » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:47 pm

Might be one of the worst O lines to win a SB but Ben saved them time and again with his great escapes.I am not a big fan of Arians offense but in 2007 Ben had 32 TD passes and Park was leading the NFL in rushing.They just need to get serious to upgrade the line and get better players

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Re: The arguement for Arians

Postby McLovin » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:00 pm

It stands to reason that Tomlin and Colbert are aware of their short-comings in talent along the OL. Tomlin called them out twice during the playoffs. The real concern goes beyond their lack of talent, but the obvious lack of coaching and discipline of that unit is really disturbing. Again, in the Super Bowl stupid penalties and players easily thrown aside such as Stapleton getting abused 2 games in a row...first by BloMe Ngata and Darnell COCKett screams of lack of talent AND lack of coaching. Will Tomlin and Colbert FIRE LARRY PORN???[size=85]Or will they miss their Forrest Hump and Penny does Pittsburgh movies too much to cut bait with this guy?[/size]

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Re: The arguement for Arians

Postby StillMill » Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:31 pm

oldschoolhunkie wrote:It's simple: they just won the Super Bowl with a dog shit offensive line. It is an incredible accomplishment and everyone who pulled it off deserves kudos. Think about how weak the line clearly was from the start and then they lost two starters. and they managed to pull it off.

Also deserves kudos for having the stones to call those two passes out of the end zone... Hines dropped it on first down, which would have altered everything and then of course we had the safety on the lame hold call... butthatwas a great pass and catch -- and a brilliant call. You gotta give him that.


Uh, sorry. Sandwiched in between those 2 passes you are crowing about, was a running play......a COUNTER with the left guard PULLING, leaving a hole the size of Texas for a defender to SHOOT right through and nearly safety Parker. You never, EVER run a counter like that from your own goal line. STUPID as installing a screen door on a submarine.

9 plays inside the AZ 8-yard line......and nothing but FGs.

Please, stop spewing bullshit about Bruce Arians. He's a RETARD who should be fired.....immediately.

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Re: The arguement for Arians

Postby StillLifer » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:18 pm

StillMill wrote:Uh, sorry. Sandwiched in between those 2 passes you are crowing about, was a running play......a COUNTER with the left guard PULLING, leaving a hole the size of Texas for a defender to SHOOT right through and nearly safety Parker. You never, EVER run a counter like that from your own goal line. STUPID as installing a screen door on a submarine.

9 plays inside the AZ 8-yard line......and nothing but FGs.

Please, stop spewing bullshit about Bruce Arians. He's a RETARD who should be fired.....immediately.


:suplusone: He should get fired but he won't be.

Who the hell runs Parker up the middle in their EZ when he's been bouncing off his own linemen ALL DAY?!?! :supissed: Even my Australian husband (who's been learning the game for only 6 years) could see that was idiotic.

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Re: The arguement for Arians

Postby Nel » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:38 pm

Don't foget that Marsha Brady was injured and with her the Pats could have whipped our tails, quite possibly. And Manning scorched us too, but was injured early also.

Don't overplay the SB victory or Airhead's role.

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Re: The arguement for Arians

Postby LooseSlag » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:47 pm

StillMill wrote:

9 plays inside the AZ 8-yard line......and nothing but FGs.



That says it all...
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Re: The arguement for Arians

Postby oldschoolhunkie » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:47 am

Don't foget that Marsha Brady was injured and with her the Pats could have whipped our tails, quite possibly. And Manning scorched us too, but was injured early also.

Don't overplay the SB victory or Airhead's role.


Oh please.. don't overplay the SB victory? Fuck that! Every year the team that wins has things break their way.

I agree with running the counter, btw... but those passes were great calls that took guts and both should have worked.

Still, they won the SB with a dogshit offensive line and Arians seems to be liked by Ben, who plays well and responds to him and has freedom when he needs it.. all of that counts.

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