View topic - Either NFC team will be tough for Pgh to beat

[lloydrules Profile]

In case you aren't aware, check out what happened the last time we faced either Philly or AZ. Both were bad losses.

And both teams are a lot better than when they beat Pgh. A LOT.

Philly's D is a nightmare for Pgh. Just a nightmare. Their sell out first down attack to force 2nd and 3rd and long is just what the doctor ordered to hurt Pgh's offense.

And the pass-first mentality on offense is the blue print for how to beat Pgh's D.

And AZ? Their passing game is the perfect antidote to how to beat Pgh. Problem is, most teams don't have those dominating WRs like AZ. But those wides for AZ will give the Steelers D headaches. Trust me.

And AZ's D is very underrated. They have emerging stars and some great, young, fast athletes all over the field.

I believe we will beat a run-down Balt. team. But it's what we face next that concerns me....a lot.

[Steeledge Profile]

In case you aren't aware, check out what happened the last time we faced either Philly or AZ. Both were bad losses.

And both teams are a lot better than when they beat Pgh. A LOT.

Philly's D is a nightmare for Pgh. Just a nightmare. Their sell out first down attack to force 2nd and 3rd and long is just what the doctor ordered to hurt Pgh's offense.

And the pass-first mentality on offense is the blue print for how to beat Pgh's D.

And AZ? Their passing game is the perfect antidote to how to beat Pgh. Problem is, most teams don't have those dominating WRs like AZ. But those wides for AZ will give the Steelers D headaches. Trust me.

And AZ's D is very underrated. They have emerging stars and some great, young, fast athletes all over the field.

I believe we will beat a run-down Balt. team. But it's what we face next that concerns me....a lot.

Hey Chicken Little,
In case you missed it Sunday, we're not the same team either...

I have rarely seen any of your negative prognostications come to fruition.
Even more rarely have I seen you excited about the Steelers chances to actually WIN an upcoming game or games.

All I have ever read from you besides the doom-and-gloom is the rare "I told you so" on the occasion your predictions are met with a loss, never mind the fact that you're silent when they actually AREN'T!

you need to up the Cymbalta dose, dude.
Then, come back and ROOT for our TEAM!

[McLovin Profile]

McLovin usually thrives on enthusiasm and unbridled optomisim but Lloyd makes some good points particularly about the cards. The Cardinals have big, explosive receiver in Fitzgerald. Boldin hurt but as good if not better than Fitzgerald when healthy. Breaston has grown from Pittsburgh high school qb to great return man to a solid wr in the NFL. AND watch out the cards re-signed Jerame Tuman today!!! Cards running the ball better with Edge back but the concern is the talent eluded to by Lloyd on their defense. Clancy Pendergrass simplified their defense after the Pats debacle and now Gerald Hayes and Karlos Dansby playing great at LB and DM Cromartie is dominating corner as a rookie. McLovin's boy Ken Whiz and his staff are coaching up a storm out in the desert! All that said if the OL pass blocks and willie runs McLovin looks for the Steelers to survive that potential matchup in a wildly entertaining shootout. In summary, Ravens are beat up and Steelers have their number so no worries there. Punch your ticket to the Super Bowl fellas! Phili has a good blitzing defense but honestly their offense is nothing that Troy and the #1 defense can't handle but those upstart Cards have some talent and Karma to watch out for. Should make for great banter the next few weeks

[steelslep Profile]

What is it with you fuckers? WHY-WHY-WHY do you give one ounce of crap about a game that may never happen? Why not focus on the task at hand that is the Baltimore Shitbirds? Makes no sense to me that you would waste the energy typing this blather...

Worry about the birds flying into Heinz this weekend before you worry about the birds flying into Tampa...Sheesh....

[Steeledge Profile]

Those upstart Cards have some talent and Karma to watch out for.

...not to mention a LOT of ex-Steeler blood, which might just be driving their whole defiance of history.

[McLovin Profile]

What is it with you fuckers? WHY-WHY-WHY do you give one ounce of crap about a game that may never happen? Why not focus on the task at hand that is the Baltimore Shitbirds? Makes no sense to me that you would waste the energy typing this blather...

Worry about the birds flying into Heinz this weekend before you worry about the birds flying into Tampa...Sheesh....

Who's worried about the Ravens? Seriously, Steelers beat them in both meeting this year in close games that had to be a source of great frustration to them. The Ravens were statistically dominated by a Titans team that was without their star rookie rb in Chris Johnson who had 72 yds in the first half against Ray and his thugs before leaving injured. To continue the theme of the Titans offense being effective against the Ravens def does Slep believe Kerry Collins to be a better qb than Ben? Let's hope not. The Titans defense is comparable to the Steelers and Flacco and the Ravens did next to nothing against them all game. Key Ravens players are injured on both sides of the ball from what was a very physical game. So what are you worried about Slep? Do you think Troy's calf is something to be of concern? Do you think that old, injured Willie Anderson is going to be able to handle Lamar Woodley and Aaron Smith? Nothing wrong with the guys posing what if scenerios and teams Steelers may or may not face in the Super Bowl. You got one thing right the Steelers season has gone to birds.

[Steeledge Profile]

What is it with you fuckers? WHY-WHY-WHY do you give one ounce of crap about a game that may never happen? Why not focus on the task at hand that is the Baltimore Shitbirds? Makes no sense to me that you would waste the energy typing this blather...

Worry about the birds flying into Heinz this weekend before you worry about the birds flying into Tampa...Sheesh....

Jizzum Crow, or Raven, or whatever...
It's a friggin' discussion board, dude. It's not to say we're not concerned about the Ratbirds, it's just not on this thread.

...take a chill...

[McLovin Profile]

Those upstart Cards have some talent and Karma to watch out for.

...not to mention a LOT of ex-Steeler blood, which might just be driving their whole defiance of history.

Whiz and Grimm doing some coaching over there to be certain. Grimm's OL will key their Super Bowl run against both Phili and Steelers blitzes in keeping Warner upright and away from turnovers that he can be prone to when pressured.

[lloydrules Profile]

Those upstart Cards have some talent and Karma to watch out for.

...not to mention a LOT of ex-Steeler blood, which might just be driving their whole defiance of history.

Whiz and Grimm doing some coaching over there to be certain. Grimm's OL will key their Super Bowl run against both Phili and Steelers blitzes in keeping Warner upright and away from turnovers that he can be prone to when pressured.

If we do face AZ, getting to Warner will be the key to winning. If we can't get to him, winning will be very difficult.

[lloydrules Profile]

What is it with you fuckers? WHY-WHY-WHY do you give one ounce of crap about a game that may never happen? Why not focus on the task at hand that is the Baltimore Shitbirds? Makes no sense to me that you would waste the energy typing this blather...

Worry about the birds flying into Heinz this weekend before you worry about the birds flying into Tampa...Sheesh....

Jizzum Crow, or Raven, or whatever...
It's a friggin' discussion board, dude. It's not to say we're not concerned about the Ratbirds, it's just not on this thread.

...take a chill...

You are telling HIM to take a chill? Did you see your first post in this thread? Seriously.

[El Nino Profile]

If we do face AZ, getting to Warner will be the key to winning. If we can't get to him, winning will be very difficult.

i wonder if using belicheat's tactic vs them will be effective (6-7 db packages), we have the depth in the secondary to pull it off. gay has proven to be capable, and deshea although past his prime is still good as a dime/nickel back

[lloydrules Profile]

If we do face AZ, getting to Warner will be the key to winning. If we can't get to him, winning will be very difficult.

i wonder if using belicheat's tactic vs them will be effective (6-7 db packages), we have the depth in the secondary to pull it off. gay has proven to be capable, and deshea although past his prime is still good as a dime/nickel back

Townsend is probably the most underrated recent Steeler. He may be past his prime but he is STILL a solid player. Ward says he's still the best DB we got

[catesinator Profile]

I am not particularly confident if we have to go up against the Eagles in the superbowl. To me it look like if we were still playing that game the Steelers wouldn't have a touchdown. However, it would be an interesting barometer to see how far we've come since week 3.

I can't say Zona would be as tough to beat. Using last year's game as proof of anything is flat out retarded. Neither team is close to being the same as they were in week 4 of 2007. And that was an evenly matched game as I recall. The Steelers got fucked over by a punt return for a TD and also they should have had a defensive TD by James Harrison after he was incorrectly ruled down after a fumble recovery. Ben threw a pick in the end zone on the next play. I think the Cards are riding a wave of momentum right now, but having a bye week in between the championship games and the superbowl could very well mess that momentum up. By far we match up much better against them than we do the Eagles. I would also expect our fans would dominate the crowd like Superbowl XL which could be a factor. That might not be the case if the opponent were the Eagles.

[Steeledge Profile]

You are telling HIM to take a chill?

Yup, and I recall telling YOU to take a pill.
get that Cymbalta prescription filled yet?

Did you see your first post in this thread?

Of course I did. I wrote it, dillweed, in response to you subjecting us to your hand-wringing, worrisome, pants-shitting negativity YET AGAIN...

Would it be so hard for you just to write...

THE STEELERS ARE GOING TO KICK THE SHIT OUT OF ANYBODY ELSE THEY FACE THIS YEAR, AND LOMBARDI #6 IS COMING HOME TO STEEL TOWN!!!!

...well, maybe if you don't believe they can.

But I for one do believe...
The Steelers CANNOT be beaten here on out. They will only lose if they can't get outta their own way...

[lloydrules Profile]

I am not particularly confident if we have to go up against the Eagles in the superbowl. To me it look like if we were still playing that game the Steelers wouldn't have a touchdown. However, it would be an interesting barometer to see how far we've come since week 3.

I can't say Zona would be as tough to beat. Using last year's game as proof of anything is flat out retarded. Neither team is close to being the same as they were in week 4 of 2007. And that was an evenly matched game as I recall. The Steelers got fucked over by a punt return for a TD and also they should have had a defensive TD by James Harrison after he was incorrectly ruled down after a fumble recovery. Ben threw a pick in the end zone on the next play. I think the Cards are riding a wave of momentum right now, but having a bye week in between the championship games and the superbowl could very well mess that momentum up. By far we match up much better against them than we do the Eagles. I would also expect our fans would dominate the crowd like Superbowl XL which could be a factor. That might not be the case if the opponent were the Eagles.

Of course both teams are much different than last year; but fact remains the same factors that made AZ win that game are still at play. Their big, tall, leaping WRs are what is needed to beat the Pgh D. When they can throw the ball up there and their guys can grab it before our guys can even touch it, that destroys much of what our D does. I know our D is #1 vs. the pass, but that stat is misleading as the way to beat our D is to pass the ball, and that is what AZ can do, regardless of what coverage we use. And, apparently, O-lines can hold our rushers all day and not draw a flag vs. us, so that means we won't get to Warner to flow him off his rhythm. That's quite disconcerting.

And, AZ quietly has pro bowl level d-linemen, Lbs and DBs. They may not have made the PB yet but they are playing on a level to make the PB.

Oh, and the trump card to maybe beating Philly: McNabb might STILL choke as he has in his biggest games in his career. He literally barfed in the SB vs. NE. And no, it wasn't from physical exertion; it was from nerves.

[Steeledge Profile]

fact remains the same factors that made AZ win that game are still at play.

umm, no they ain't
Last time, their head coach was 5 months removed from being our OC, and we were still running HIS OFFENSE.
Likewise, all that RECENT PRACTICE against OUR DEFENSE gave him a unique perspective on where to attack.

Now, almost 2 full seasons later, he is not nearly as privileged to so much "perspective".

And, AZ quietly has pro bowl level d-linemen, Lbs and DBs. They may not have made the PB yet but they are playing on a level to make the PB.

Don't even get me started on how WORTHLESS pro-bowl selection is to begin with (reference: Alan Faneca), but here's a clue for you, zippy - if ya don't make the pro bowl, ya ain't pro-bowl level. Besides, with your criteria for d-linemen, Lbs and DBs to be "pro bowl level," every team on our schedule this year was full of those "pro bowl level" players, and we only lost 4 games, down to the wire in each...

Oh, and the trump card to maybe beating Philly: McNabb might STILL choke as he has in his biggest games in his career. He literally barfed in the SB vs. NE. And no, it wasn't from physical exertion; it was from nerves.

Oh, so WE have no say at all in the matter?
All we have to do then is pray to the Choking gods to put a hex on McNabb, or we could pay someone to show him the Thriller video over and over the night before the game and scare the be-jeepers out of him...

While I agree that the Iggles will fly or fall based solely on McNabb's success, I'm certain that our Dick Lebeau - coached defense will have prepared a much more potent trump card than you suggest...

[thesteelhammer Profile]

Excellent thread.

Lloyd makes some excellent points in his original post, especially aboutt he Cardinals.
Steelers D plays with the stop the run first mentality. Cards look to pass first and do it well with those WRs.

Here's what I got to say about it though.

ONE GAME AT A TIME.
THE STEELERS PLAY THE RAVENS NEXT.
NO OTHER POSSIBLE GAME MATTERS.

They don't matter for two reasons.
1. The Steelers may never get there if they don't beat the Ravens.
2. Even if the Steelers beat the Ravens, who knows what 96 guys from the two teams in the superbowl will be healthy enough to play. Both the card's WRs could blow out knees this week and al the hypothetical match ups wouldn't mean a thing.

Let's learn from the mistakes past Steelers team have made, and not overlook the AFC Championship game. One game at a time.

[lloydrules Profile]

Excellent thread.

Lloyd makes some excellent points in his original post, especially aboutt he Cardinals.
Steelers D plays with the stop the run first mentality. Cards look to pass first and do it well with those WRs.

Here's what I got to say about it though.

ONE GAME AT A TIME.
THE STEELERS PLAY THE RAVENS NEXT.
NO OTHER POSSIBLE GAME MATTERS.

They don't matter for two reasons.
1. The Steelers may never get there if they don't beat the Ravens.
2. Even if the Steelers beat the Ravens, who knows what 96 guys from the two teams in the superbowl will be healthy enough to play. Both the card's WRs could blow out knees this week and al the hypothetical match ups wouldn't mean a thing.

Let's learn from the mistakes past Steelers team have made, and not overlook the AFC Championship game. One game at a time.

The TEAM needs to worry about one game at a time, not the fans. But, I still get what you are saying and will stop commenting on anyone but Balt. and Pgh for the time being

[thesteelhammer Profile]

Feel free to talk about what you want to talk about.
It just freeks me out when we look ahead because we've been here before and got distracted.
Bad Mojo to talk about a game that might not happen. That's all I'm saying.

[shawnlucas Profile]

Bad Mojo to talk about a game that might not happen. That's all I'm saying.

You got to respect the Mojo.