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The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby firsttimeposter » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:41 am

Steelers up 14-10. 4th and inches. Fake FB dive with the flick outside to Chris Johnson. Ike shows great discipline in staying home and has him dead to rights for a 5 yard loss. He misses the tackle and 21 yards later it's 14-17. Ike is always solid in run support but he just missed that. He has to make that tackle.

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Postby No l Gravity l » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:25 am

Looks like he tripped over that bacteria field Willie Parker has been running over :dunce:

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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby Hagerstown Steelman » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:52 am

That was a huge play. When I saw Taylor there I thought we were set.

This does show the fine line in the NFL between a W or an L.

The 4th & 1
The penalty on the goal line
Bens fumble on the goal line.

Those three plays take the game from 24-14 them to 17-13 us late in the game. Not saying we hold onto win but I like our chances.

Also, you don't win many games in the NFL with 5 turnovers (or whatever we had).

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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby Snockered Pedestrian » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:01 pm

Ike stinks in run support. He was out of position and when Johnson cut back, Taylor's feet went out from under him and he was on his way. I'd rather had BMac or even WGay with contain on that play.

It wasn't that long ago that BR7 ran that play, only to the right, pitching to FWP.

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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby isfry » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:29 pm

Ike may stink in run support, but he's usually a sound tackler. I thought he had Johnson dead to rights on that one. Maybe a different game if he makes that tackle. Maybe...

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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby StainlessStill » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:56 pm

I thought Ike played a fairly well game, and he was also all around the field. That one single play sums up the game of football. It's a game of inches. Ike got bit by the turf with the threat of a dangerous one on one with a scat back. He got bit.
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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby UncleDick » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:01 pm

What i didnt understand was why a penalty wasnt called at the end of the run. He pulled out a prop and used it. Did they change the rule?

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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby isfry » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:15 pm

UncleDick wrote:What i didnt understand was why a penalty wasnt called at the end of the run. He pulled out a prop and used it. Did they change the rule?


That penalty will be assessed by the absolute ass-whooping we give them in the playoffs. Thanks for the bulletin board material, Johnson.

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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby StainlessStill » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:06 pm

UncleDick wrote:What i didnt understand was why a penalty wasnt called at the end of the run. He pulled out a prop and used it. Did they change the rule?


I guess its "okay" when a single player cocks off, but if 2 or more of his teammates would of jumped in I think that would of been unsportsmanlike conduct, taunting.
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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby Steelhope » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:40 pm

StainlessStill wrote:
UncleDick wrote:What i didnt understand was why a penalty wasnt called at the end of the run. He pulled out a prop and used it. Did they change the rule?


I guess its "okay" when a single player cocks off, but if 2 or more of his teammates would of jumped in I think that would of been unsportsmanlike conduct, taunting.


Nope....i remember last week some idiot after he scored brought out a cloth and wiped his shoes....he was penalized....ref said "for using a prop"!

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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby StillDodger » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:18 pm

firsttimeposter wrote:Steelers up 14-10. 4th and inches. Fake FB dive with the flick outside to Chris Johnson. Ike shows great discipline in staying home and has him dead to rights for a 5 yard loss. He misses the tackle and 21 yards later it's 14-17. Ike is always solid in run support but he just missed that. He has to make that tackle.


That was NOT the big missed play. It was the 3rd and 20 preceding it. We give up a 19 1/2 yard pass play, setting up that 4th and inches. That drive should have ended in a FG, leaving the Steelers still up by a point.

The second and third big missed plays were Ben's "Earnest Byner" fumble and that missed FG. NFL kickers are over 90 percent from within 35 yards. Those three plays alone cost us at least 10 points.

In looking back, the difference in that game was the pass protection. If Ben had Tenn's pass protection, nobody would be complaining about him holding onto the football too long.......
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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby JimPgh1 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:46 pm

firsttimeposter wrote:Steelers up 14-10. 4th and inches. Fake FB dive with the flick outside to Chris Johnson. Ike shows great discipline in staying home and has him dead to rights for a 5 yard loss. He misses the tackle and 21 yards later it's 14-17. Ike is always solid in run support but he just missed that. He has to make that tackle.


I disagree.
Ike was in the vicinity, but a good back should be able to avoid 1 tackler in space and CJ is a good back. Take a look at it again, if you can find a video somewhere. I don't think Ike was that close to CJ.

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Re: The BIG (missed) play that nobody is talking about

Postby Teegre » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:37 am

JimPgh1 wrote:I disagree.
Ike was in the vicinity, but a good back should be able to avoid 1 tackler in space and CJ is a good back. Take a look at it again, if you can find a video somewhere. I don't think Ike was that close to CJ.


I disagree...and agree...to a degree.

If Ike could have gotten a little closer to Chris Johnson, even if it only meant slowing Johnson for half a second, the play would have ended differently. True, Johnson probably would have gotten the first down, but if Johnson had been slowed for even a little bit, it would not have been a 21 yard scamper...because Troy would have run over and decked Johnson at about the 10 yard line.

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