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Fox Bias?

Postby steelblood14 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:35 am

i was just wondenig if anyone else thought that the fox people might favor their NFC teams just a bit? i don't know how close this may have been because we never saw a replay but on the initial choice catch and run, it looked as if he may have been close to stepping out of bounds, but fox didn't show any replays so that the coaching staff may have been able to take a look at it for a possible review. and i remember a few other plays where they showed replays after the next play. maybe i'm wrong in thinking that the coaches in the booth use network broadcast as a tool, and if i am please correct me...just wanted to get other people's thoughts...and also i remember a few weeks ago achinghead aikman saying that bruce arians is one of the best coordinators in the league.

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby mikeyg » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:18 am

I thought FOX was / is fair on Sunday. Certainly beat those clowns Jim Nancy and Phil Simpleton (the Patrio-cheats lovers)

I like Aikman - he seems fair, always complimentary, good analysis. Buck should stick to baseball - he is a football incompetent.

As for the replay (s), again, I did not pick up on anything slight of hand.

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby isfry » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:54 am

Great point, Steelblood. I thought the same thing on that play, I think it was the one where Farrior tackled Polamalu out of the play. I was like, wait a minute, was he tip-toeing on the line there before getting that last 35 yards? No replay. I, too, believe that guys upstairs take advantage of network replay and phone down to the sideline if they see something. Whether that's FOX bias or not, I don't know. As for Aikman, I have never thought he was "fair", or unbiased. He was stroking the Dallas "defense" all day, when it was clear that our offensive ineptitude was the reason for the low score early on. Meanwhile, two picks, three sacks, a fumble, and two fourth down stuffs by our D and Aikman is still talking about the Dallas defenders "flying around and making plays." What plays? Also, has anyone been able to see post-game footage that the live broadcast didn't show of the Dallas secondary's coverage? They never seemed to show it, but either Ben was even more confused and holding on to the ball longer than usual (which is saying something) or the Dallas coverage really was that good. Any thoughts?

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby ILLSTILL » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:45 pm

isfry wrote: As for Aikman, I have never thought he was "fair", or unbiased. He was stroking the Dallas "defense" all day, when it was clear that our offensive ineptitude was the reason for the low score early on. Meanwhile, two picks, three sacks, a fumble, and two fourth down stuffs by our D and Aikman is still talking about the Dallas defenders "flying around and making plays." What plays?


Well, at the same time, everyone is stroking the Cowboys defense. Few people outside of Steeler nation are aware of our offense's ineptitude. If they were aware, Arians would be on a much hotter seat, now, wouldn't he?

Also, i can contradict your point about the 2 picks 3 sacks and a fumble by saying "but, hey! Dallas stopped us cold on every turnover except a pick inside the redzone in the first half!

Ben is great at making the offense generate 0-3 points against any defense in the top 15 in the entire first half. That is inexcusable. Especially when Byron came in and made Philly and Wash look like defenses in the bottom 15. Check the tape.

Another good coverup is: Yeah, ben had a respectable 204 yards, but, had a lot less when you take away that bomb to holmes, which he attempts WAY too often.

Another thing I might add, is I watched the game with a cowboys fan (only cause he's a longtime friend), and, even though I was absolutely SCREAMING at Ben, he continuously toted the Dallas D.

God, I won't be able to look at the offense this week. I honestly hope to god ben gets injured if he continues his pacifying ways.

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby isfry » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:52 pm

I hear you, ILL. My question, I guess, is was their defense that good, or was our offense that bad? without ever seeing what the coverage looked like down the field, it was hard for me to tell. I admit I am biased, and don't want to give Dallas the credit, but I am open to the idea that they played well. Out of their shoes, maybe, but well.

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby derfsandmuskie » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:59 pm

Ill, are you stupid! You hope to god BB gets hurt if he plays bad. That is one of the lamest posts I have ever read! Go root for another team if you want the qb to be hurt.
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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby SteelWolf62 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:12 pm

I don't agree with the getting hurt business, but Ben is sort of a drama queen.

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby Coke Oven » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:27 pm

"Another good coverup is: Yeah, ben had a respectable 204 yards, but, had a lot less when you take away that bomb to holmes, which he attempts WAY too often."

Think, man. Think. Who calls the plays? If Ben doesn't call the plays then how in hell can Ben attempt anything WAY to often? Logic.

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby isfry » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:47 pm

Actually, in the hurry up, Ben calls the plays. Granted, it's from a list of "callable" plays in each situation from what I understand, but he calls em.

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby ILLSTILL » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:29 am

Also is the fact that Ben is always good for a 4th quarter "why can't he always do that?!?" drive. Those are always good.

If ben does well this week, then I'll full-on say I was wrong. But for now, 3 points a half is not very appeasing...

But going back, why is it that he is always good for that solid 4th quarter drive? Is Arians a slow learner? Plus, haven't you guys heard of the 3rd quarter us to them points ratio?!? It's outrageous! Those are SOLELY because Ben made good adjustments. If Ben's making these pleasant adujustments,

1. Why are they so sporadic?
2. Why doesn't he speak up a little?
3. Why isn;t anyone?

If this was all the fault of Arians, then someone, if not Ben, would speak up. There's been little to no talk in that department.

This is why I think Ben MIGHT just be trying to keep up with teams, and not going for the spotlight. It's not a very good theory, but maybe he's tryin to hold on then explode during the playoffs. But that jac game last year says otherwise.

But guys, come on, I've practically forgotten who Heath Miller is. That is NOT all Arians' fault, no matter how you slice it.

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby Teegre » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:11 am

ILLSTILL wrote:Also is the fact that Ben is always good for a 4th quarter "why can't he always do that?!?" drive. Those are always good.

If ben does well this week, then I'll full-on say I was wrong. But for now, 3 points a half is not very appeasing...

But going back, why is it that he is always good for that solid 4th quarter drive? Is Arians a slow learner? Plus, haven't you guys heard of the 3rd quarter us to them points ratio?!? It's outrageous! Those are SOLELY because Ben made good adjustments. If Ben's making these pleasant adujustments,

1. Why are they so sporadic?
2. Why doesn't he speak up a little?
3. Why isn;t anyone?

If this was all the fault of Arians, then someone, if not Ben, would speak up. There's been little to no talk in that department.

This is why I think Ben MIGHT just be trying to keep up with teams, and not going for the spotlight. It's not a very good theory, but maybe he's tryin to hold on then explode during the playoffs. But that jac game last year says otherwise.

But guys, come on, I've practically forgotten who Heath Miller is. That is NOT all Arians' fault, no matter how you slice it.


1) Heath has been staying in to block...a lot.
2) FWP has been hurt. No run games, negates the play-action pass (which was a big part of Pitsburgh's offense).
3) Losing a great left side hasn't helped (Smith, Faneca, Hartings > Starks, Kemo, Hartwig).
4) Ben's shoulder injury has essentially limited his throws ot (around) 20 yards.

Any/all of these could have to do with the fact that Pittsburgh's offense is sporadic, ineffective, and ranked 26th in the NFL.

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby Lake37 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:35 am

SteelWolf62 wrote:I don't agree with the getting hurt business, but Ben is sort of a drama queen.


I love Ben but I agree that he is very much a drama queen. Every time he takes a hit or gets a little bump he is on the sidelines making sure everyone knows that it happened. In a way I think he is a tough player, but likes to try to make sure that everyone knows that he is playing hurt and that he is a tough player.

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby DirtDawson » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:38 am

Lake37 wrote:I love Ben but I agree that he is very much a drama queen. Every time he takes a hit or gets a little bump he is on the sidelines making sure everyone knows that it happened. In a way I think he is a tough player, but likes to try to make sure that everyone knows that he is playing hurt and that he is a tough player.



Atleast he's never pulled a Gus Frerotte Soccer-Crybaby move

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby shawnlucas » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:35 pm

DirtDawson wrote:
Lake37 wrote:I love Ben but I agree that he is very much a drama queen. Every time he takes a hit or gets a little bump he is on the sidelines making sure everyone knows that it happened. In a way I think he is a tough player, but likes to try to make sure that everyone knows that he is playing hurt and that he is a tough player.



Atleast he's never pulled a Gus Frerotte Soccer-Crybaby move


Or headbutted a concrete wall.

That was Frerotte, too, right?

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Re: Fox Bias?

Postby GodfatherofSoul » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:11 pm

My problem has been the general way all the sports channels have been talking about the Dallas game. They act like Dallas gave it away and we didn't take it from them.

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