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[darthsteel Profile]

I have about had it with "we have to play stiller football" its the 12th game of the season and thier still running on first/goal and for the most part second down on 2nd and goal from the 10 inward. this drives me nuts since it always ends up 2 and 9 or 3rd and 8 which makes it very very difficult for them to score a td in a must pass situation.
last season they were throwing on these downs and lighting up the scoreboard, why did tomlin all of a sudden decide we have to run no matter what in the redzone after the passing game proved last season they were the superior option inside the redzone?

Seriously, I think if you look back , you will see the steelers scored many of thier points through the air inside the 10 last season and it boggles the mind why they just decided that they must pound the ball with 210lb backs and get stuffed like we are watching a looping tape all season.


ya its all good at 9-3 , but sooner or later leaving td's on the filed at the 3 yd line and kicking field goals is gonna cost us a huge game somewhere along the line.

[El Nino Profile]

i was thinking the same thing. willie talking about us needing to play 'steeler football', etc. i like willie and all, but the reason why we aren't playing 'steeler football' is because we cant punch it in on 3rd and 1 consistently. steeler football is all about getting those short yards when you need em with the running game, and this year we haven't. I'm all for a more finesse type offense if it helps our chances of winning. We don't need an 'identity', just attack our opponent's weaknesses and win the freaking game.

[Nick79 Profile]

I been thinking that all year! And it cost us the game vs. Indy. I don't get the obsession with "HOW" we score a TD, I just want to score a TD ANY WAY. I have always been sick of that, "If you can't pound the ball 2 yards, blah, blah, blah..." Me, I'd rather be a wuss and pass it in from a yard out, rather than kick a FG after trying to PROVE MANHOOD for 3 straight downs.

[Stillustronic Profile]

Why no Russell then? (except for one successful plow into paydirt)

[jstallworth82 Profile]

I agree in principal but if you are at the 2 yd line that doesn't leave you a lot of room to throw and allows the D to defend not only a short field in front but nothing behind. If we had a good O-Line (which they took somewhat of a step forward yesterday) and a good back in short yardage it would be different. Plus we could play action and the D would respect the run but right now that doesn't work because few teams will bite on the fake.

[darthsteel Profile]

They were throwing first and goal from the 1 and scoring alot last yr, thats a big reason for bens 32 tds or anyone else in the leage throwing 30 plus tds.

Sure running is a higher pct play if you have the personel, but parker had about 4 tds last season and a few this yr with many chances. Instead of slamming into the line 2x then throw when its exspected , last yr they would throw on first and if needed all three downs which to me gives you a good chance of getting a high pct of td's when added up over 16 games.

I just dont get running all the time on first from the 7 to 10 yd line, when they have gotten a 1 or 2 yds probably 90% of the time in that situation. you basically concede a down which puts you in a situation where the defense sits on the pass.

tomlin must have gotten giddy with all the tds on the ground against the texans opening day.....

It's not even like thier taking a gamble on something that they do not know works, they scored very consistently through the air inside the 10 last yr. I dont even recall ben throwing an int in the endzone last yr, do you guys?

[StillRush Profile]

I don't recall one either, and we sure were VERY effective scoring in the red zone passing. Only there's something called play action fake that has somehow disappeared from our playbook, especially down there in the red zone. Just another of the incoherent and totally stupid things we've had to endure with Arians as our OC. "If it works, then discard it from the playbook as the other team will probably be expecting it, and if it doesn't, then keep doing it until it does" seems to be one of his motto's, as I don't think the man is capable of having what's called an offensive philosophy or strategy.

[Lake37 Profile]

They were throwing first and goal from the 1 and scoring alot last yr, thats a big reason for bens 32 tds or anyone else in the leage throwing 30 plus tds.

Sure running is a higher pct play if you have the personel, but parker had about 4 tds last season and a few this yr with many chances. Instead of slamming into the line 2x then throw when its exspected , last yr they would throw on first and if needed all three downs which to me gives you a good chance of getting a high pct of td's when added up over 16 games.

I just dont get running all the time on first from the 7 to 10 yd line, when they have gotten a 1 or 2 yds probably 90% of the time in that situation. you basically concede a down which puts you in a situation where the defense sits on the pass.

tomlin must have gotten giddy with all the tds on the ground against the texans opening day.....

It's not even like thier taking a gamble on something that they do not know works, they scored very consistently through the air inside the 10 last yr. I dont even recall ben throwing an int in the endzone last yr, do you guys?

According to this article, BR7 threw 2 red zone INT's and had a passer rating of 97.5

http://profootball.scout.com/2/770206.html

[darthsteel Profile]

Same shit yesterday, ram it into the line over and over for 1 yd once inside the 10!

Waste 1st and second down throughout the game on your pathetic running game that has done nothing all season , then ask your passing game to get you a first down over and over on 3rd and long!


I like tomlin, but you cannot be a good coach when you dont know your limitations!

and ariens play designs are pathetic, stop with the damm low throws into the line , every friggin team is in position for it to be picked oor batted down. That is poor play design!

[isfry Profile]

Same shit yesterday, ram it into the line over and over for 1 yd once inside the 10!

Waste 1st and second down throughout the game on your pathetic running game that has done nothing all season , then ask your passing game to get you a first down over and over on 3rd and long!


I like tomlin, but you cannot be a good coach when you dont know your limitations!

and ariens play designs are pathetic, stop with the damm low throws into the line , every friggin team is in position for it to be picked oor batted down. That is poor play design!

Amen. Sooner or later someone is going to read that stupid "trips buch right WR screen", and run it all the way home. Then Arians will be like, "well, it worked a bunch of times. We got like 2 or 3 yards on a number of those tries. It's almost like having an efficient running game..."