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Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
"The Stillers cut interesting young prospects like Crezdon Butler, yet continue to keep Willie Gay, who must have pictures of someone from the front office engaged in foul acts with farm animals. I don’t know how else to account for him sticking to the roster."
Ya know, over the years there've been several guys who, although poor performers, manage to hang on with the team while better looking prospects don't make it. After puzzling over this for a while, I've concluded that they're probably company snitches. I've worked for organizations that used them. They don't fool anyone for long but paranoid management seems to like having them around. Those employees always seem to fit the same mold. They're never quality performers but they seem to hang on and on and even get preferential treatment from the management guys. Eventually when management knows that they've been outed and are no longer a source of information, they're replaced.
Ya know, over the years there've been several guys who, although poor performers, manage to hang on with the team while better looking prospects don't make it. After puzzling over this for a while, I've concluded that they're probably company snitches. I've worked for organizations that used them. They don't fool anyone for long but paranoid management seems to like having them around. Those employees always seem to fit the same mold. They're never quality performers but they seem to hang on and on and even get preferential treatment from the management guys. Eventually when management knows that they've been outed and are no longer a source of information, they're replaced.
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Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
I'm not a fan of Gay by any means but he plays a solid nickel. He should never, I repeat never, be allowed to play starting CB! That job better go to Lewis. I read a few articles saying that if Fad were out then Gay would take his spot - that better not happen.
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Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
He should never, I repeat never, be allowed to play starting CB!
Absolutely not!
Not when they can get me for half the salary and get equal results (and I'm 59, lean with a few operations on knees and shoulders), but hell, at half the cost- same output, I'm a damn steal!
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Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
A few knee and shoulder operations, brother --- to play in the Stillers secondary you don't have blaze through a 40, but you would need to at least be able to finish one.
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Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
The comparison to the '78 Steelers is quite astute, and that syncronicity had never occured to me. If you're correct with that analogy, then that means we're due to win 2 more championships.
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Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
Haha. This article makes me laugh now.
Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
The Steelers are a pathetic rabble. This could be the problem. DWIs Dancing Bar room Drunks Politically motivated Anti American rants Wife Beating. This is now the legacy and we are reaping what we sowed. 4-12 for the Steelers this year. That is not out of the question. We could be facing a big downhill slide
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Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
I got into a pissing contest with someone here a few years ago about the core of the team being Cowher's when I stated that I didn't think that Tomlin had the same eye for talent as Cowher. I give Tomlin credit for the Super Bowl and getting to the Super Bowl. But then and now I wonder what happens when Cowher's team retires. It is about to happen and Sunday did not bode well for that. Name a significant player on defense post Cowher? Woodely? HA! The only one is Timmons. There could be some very bad years ahead for the Steelers because there aren't replacements ready for all of the aging guys.
Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
Front 3 - Smith - got tooled Hampton - got moved out - Kielsel - got steamrolled
Middle 4 - Harrison - was gulping air Woodley - lazy blubberous titty jouster Farrior - nothing left in the tank Timmons - only one that played well
CBs - McFadden sucked ass just like last year Ike played well and behaved badly
Safeties - Troy is like Waldo - where is he? Clark just plain sucked
The average age of this 11 is really up there. Yes, we could be in for a bear market
Middle 4 - Harrison - was gulping air Woodley - lazy blubberous titty jouster Farrior - nothing left in the tank Timmons - only one that played well
CBs - McFadden sucked ass just like last year Ike played well and behaved badly
Safeties - Troy is like Waldo - where is he? Clark just plain sucked
The average age of this 11 is really up there. Yes, we could be in for a bear market
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Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
PGHeaven wrote:Front 3 - Smith - got tooled Hampton - got moved out - Kielsel - got steamrolled
Middle 4 - Harrison - was gulping air Woodley - lazy blubberous titty jouster Farrior - nothing left in the tank Timmons - only one that played well
Spot on. I knew in the media even Harrison himself was talking about his lack of cardio endurance going into week one. He doesn't look like he's not in great shape but I'm surprised and a little disappointed the heart of our D was sucking wind like that. Woodley doesn't really create any havoc anymore. He's essentially an open-field opportunist who won't make a play unless it's right in front him, such as the coverage sack he had and that one measly pressure he appeared to get.
It's sad seeing how old some favorite hardnosed players like Smith and Keisel are through their play. Honestly this is the worst game I can recall off the top of my head for Aaron Smith since he cracked the starting lineup over a decade ago. Another sad point about the front 3 is that this is the first game I've seen Hampton actually get any real (if sparse) penetration in years. What happened to the stumpy fireplug that turned Denver's Tom Nalen (one of the best centers of his generation) into a quivering lump of humanity in 2003? I mean Fat Casey was Fat Casey then, too. Playing nose tackle can wear a man down fast, but the fact I saw ol' Chubsywubsy get into the backfield maybe three times the entire game--AND IT WAS A NOTABLE EVENT--shows that he's benefitting from being the type of fireplug NT that fits the system in a marketplace short on Jerry Ball/Joel Steed types at the position. I think it's time the braintrust take a hard look at going for a quicker NT type that more teams use in their 3-4 schemes today.
CBs - McFadden sucked ass just like last year Ike played well and behaved badly
Ah, yes, more sadness. The fact the front office traded to get McFadden back is essentially a concession that, after Ike, the CB corp is a walking pile of turds. Mac definitely isn't very good, but I'd rather have him start over Gay, who is an average--if that-- nickel back who doesn't have the chops to start in the Burgh or anywhere else.
Safeties - Troy is like Waldo - where is he? Clark just plain sucked
We'll see how the season plays out, but I think Troy's negation is in part due to a lack of adjustment in scheme by LeBeau and company. If your stud safety is being taken out of the game by the opposition's strategy, you gotta figure out how to fix it. The only thing Clark has going for him is that receivers know he'll cheapshot if they're looking the other way. Beyond that there's no fear of any kind if they actually catch the ball. I haven't seen a safety, strong or free, get tooled as often since Cowher's "cerebral player" Brent Alexander, who sad to say, was definitely better than Clark. Call it a matter of deciding which bus station restroom is less dirty.
The average age of this 11 is really up there. Yes, we could be in for a bear market
Solid units, throughout NFL history will often have one guy in each unit-- DL, LB, DB -- that is ancient. There is an intrinsic value to retaining a player for what he knows even if the physical skills are eroding, but this paradigm is being followed too strictly. They should have let Farrior go as amicably as possible after the '09 season. Hampton? As I said above I think it's blind loyalty to a physical type that isn't essential for the NT position in the NFL. The Steelers have gone way overboard, as if one can't understand the system and be retained unless the player has been in it for a decade already.
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Re: New Article: Palmer�s Pre-Season Preview
Colbert and Tomlin are running on the theory if it aint broke don't fix it. Well this is going to be the year it's broke. Maybe we can finally get a shakeup of used up cordinators and players.
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