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[StillMill Profile]

Colbert Humps the Dog Some More with Signing of Clark has been posted by Still Mill at Stillers.com.

[stillgrill Profile]

Yeah Slow-a-Foote could be brought in, yet again, for abuse on this board.

I'm just wondering why Joe Peezy or Hank Poteat weren't in the mix? Or Kreider, Morey, or St.Pierre, all available UFA's stuck in the desert w/ Whiz?

[Pump-N-Iron Profile]

LOL.... the sad fact remains that Foote would be a marginal upgrade over Farrior. I would be quite happy if we distanced ourselves from both. The good Lord willing, we will draft an ILB and by some miracle not have him bench rot for 1.5 seasons "learning the defense."

I know I am asking for too much.

[KreidersRage Profile]

Yeah Slow-a-Foote could be brought in, yet again, for abuse on this board.

I'm just wondering why Joe Peezy or Hank Poteat weren't in the mix? Or Kreider, Morey, or St.Pierre, all available UFA's stuck in the desert w/ Whiz?

There's a rumor going around that J.Peezy was spotted in Pittsburgh yesterday. So don't count that out.

And Kreider? Hellz yeah I'd take him back! I don't care if he was 50 years old and required use of a walker. You better believe he'd be using that walker to mow down some linebackers!

[deltadweller Profile]

I may not be quite as angry as Mill, but I don't get this. I thought we signed the replacement earlier in the day. I don't think Clark is horrible alongside Pola, but why sign both of these guys? I'm sure they're thinking that this will take needs off the draft board, but I thought 1 of them would have done the trick. I'm very confused.

[KreidersRage Profile]

I may not be quite as angry as Mill, but I don't get this. I thought we signed the replacement earlier in the day. I don't think Clark is horrible alongside Pola, but why sign both of these guys? I'm sure they're thinking that this will take needs off the draft board, but I thought 1 of them would have done the trick. I'm very confused.

Clark was obviously signed to reprise his starting role. Will Allen was likely signed to provide depth and, possibly more importantly, give us a boost on the special teams coverage units.

Everyone recognizes that our coverage units were a huge weakness, and Colbert is addressing it.

I do agree that Clark is a pretty average safety, but who else do we sign? It's going to take a decent chunk of change to pry Sharper away from New Orleans, and there really aren't any other safeties out there that we could get for a decent price.

Will Allen's an OK pickup, but he's hardly an upgrade over anyone. Perhaps he covers better on an island than Clark, but he doesn't know the defense nearly as well, and won't provide the run support at the line that that Clark does. With Troy back, Clark will return to being a nice, if unspectacular, compliment. Allen's primary purpose will be special teams coverage, but will also add some much needed depth in a pinch. i.e., no more Gangsta Carta'.

It's just way too easy to say a player sucks and that we shouldn't have resigned him. It's far harder to actually propose an alternate plan. In fact, some other sites have a word for such a thing. They call it "analysis". Alternately, simply waiting around for the front office to do something about it, then promptly complaining about it, isn't even close to analysis. That's simply called "bitching".

I'd personally love to see more of the former and less of that latter on this site.

[Pommah Profile]

KR, I am totally with you.

The Stillers record of personnel management is top notch. One of the top clubs in the salary cap era, judged by overall wins, playoff appearances and wins, and championships.

Those of us over 40 still have memories of the era when we had top caliber players at every position. Jesus Christ, at one time we were putting nine out of 22 starters on the field who later became HOF's. And if you ask me other guys are deserving of the Hall but won't make it because of "too many Steelers from the 70's bias.

But those days are long gone and nobody can duplicate them.

Now, it's all about trying to get a few top-caliber superstars in game-changing positions and manage the cap with guys with overlooked bargains or getting them to give a home-town discount. When your superstars are out, you're going to drop a notch or two, and there's nothing you can do about it. We're not the only club in this position. You don't want to think the loss of a Polamalu or Smith can drop your D from being #1 to middle of the pack, but that's the fact.

Guys like Clark, Farrior, Hampton - it's the devil ya know. Why risk it with guys from other teams who haven't proven themselves in the Steeler Way? I think our club knows what its doing, even if some things may appear questionable to those of us on the outside.

[StillMill Profile]

Clark was obviously signed to reprise his starting role. Will Allen was likely signed to provide depth and, possibly more importantly, give us a boost on the special teams coverage units.

Everyone recognizes that our coverage units were a huge weakness, and Colbert is addressing it.

I do agree that Clark is a pretty average safety, but who else do we sign? It's going to take a decent chunk of change to pry Sharper away from New Orleans, and there really aren't any other safeties out there that we could get for a decent price.

Will Allen's an OK pickup, but he's hardly an upgrade over anyone. Perhaps he covers better on an island than Clark, but he doesn't know the defense nearly as well, and won't provide the run support at the line that that Clark does. With Troy back, Clark will return to being a nice, if unspectacular, compliment. Allen's primary purpose will be special teams coverage, but will also add some much needed depth in a pinch. i.e., no more Gangsta Carta'.

It's just way too easy to say a player sucks and that we shouldn't have resigned him. It's far harder to actually propose an alternate plan. In fact, some other sites have a word for such a thing. They call it "analysis". Alternately, simply waiting around for the front office to do something about it, then promptly complaining about it, isn't even close to analysis. That's simply called "bitching".

I'd personally love to see more of the former and less of that latter on this site.

Clark, providing run support at the line?? Ha ha !! What a fuking JOKE. What a farce. What bullshit babble. Clark gets routinely TRUCKED by opposing ballcarriers. What you're confusing, are Clark's "big hits" on DEFENSELESS receivers. Big fuking deal. Any pile of shit can put a hard hit on a defenseless WR. It takes a real man -- unlike a pissfuk like Clark -- to take on a RB at full steam and put him down. Clark has been run over and has spent more time on his back than a Vegas crack whore.

It's just way too easy to say a player is so good at this and that, that we should have resigned him. It's far harder to actually realize what a pile of shit the player is, and propose the simple plan of JETTISONING the sorry pile of shit. In fact, some other sites have a word for such a thing. They call it "stupidity". Alternately, simply waiting around for the front office to do nothing about it, then promptly praising the dog fuking that Colbert just did, isn't even close to analysis. That's simply called "assaholicism".

I'd personally love to see less of the blathering babble and nonsense, such as what Kreider here barfs from the keyboard of his mom's basement, on this site. I'll certainly have the mods look into it.

[KreidersRage Profile]

Clark was obviously signed to reprise his starting role. Will Allen was likely signed to provide depth and, possibly more importantly, give us a boost on the special teams coverage units.

Everyone recognizes that our coverage units were a huge weakness, and Colbert is addressing it.

I do agree that Clark is a pretty average safety, but who else do we sign? It's going to take a decent chunk of change to pry Sharper away from New Orleans, and there really aren't any other safeties out there that we could get for a decent price.

Will Allen's an OK pickup, but he's hardly an upgrade over anyone. Perhaps he covers better on an island than Clark, but he doesn't know the defense nearly as well, and won't provide the run support at the line that that Clark does. With Troy back, Clark will return to being a nice, if unspectacular, compliment. Allen's primary purpose will be special teams coverage, but will also add some much needed depth in a pinch. i.e., no more Gangsta Carta'.

It's just way too easy to say a player sucks and that we shouldn't have resigned him. It's far harder to actually propose an alternate plan. In fact, some other sites have a word for such a thing. They call it "analysis". Alternately, simply waiting around for the front office to do something about it, then promptly complaining about it, isn't even close to analysis. That's simply called "bitching".

I'd personally love to see more of the former and less of that latter on this site.

Clark, providing run support at the line?? Ha ha !! What a fuking JOKE. What a farce. What bullshit babble. Clark gets routinely TRUCKED by opposing ballcarriers. What you're confusing, are Clark's "big hits" on DEFENSELESS receivers. Big fuking deal. Any pile of shit can put a hard hit on a defenseless WR. It takes a real man -- unlike a pissfuk like Clark -- to take on a RB at full steam and put him down. Clark has been run over and has spent more time on his back than a Vegas crack whore.

It's just way too easy to say a player is so good at this and that, that we should have resigned him. It's far harder to actually realize what a pile of shit the player is, and propose the simple plan of JETTISONING the sorry pile of shit. In fact, some other sites have a word for such a thing. They call it "stupidity". Alternately, simply waiting around for the front office to do nothing about it, then promptly praising the dog fuking that Colbert just did, isn't even close to analysis. That's simply called "assaholicism".

I'd personally love to see less of the blathering babble and nonsense, such as what Kreider here barfs from the keyboard of his mom's basement, on this site. I'll certainly have the mods look into it.

Ahhh, such a ridiculously predictable response....

So what's your plan after dumping Clark? To start Will Allen? Ryan Mundy? This is the stuff I'm talking about. Your sorry excuse for analysis goes no deeper than what's directly in front of your face. Once again, you failed to provide any viable alternative and, instead, chose to simply bash a current player. You refuse to go outside the bounds of your own little world and actually give some true insight. Instead, you choose to do your childish chest-pounding and name calling routine.

If you're not going to put any effort in it, why do it at all?

Your pointless and egotistical rants have been called out time and time again by users on this board. The sad part of it is, if you'd listen to the feedback you've been provided and do any real analysis, you might actually have a reason to be cocky. As it stands, you're absolutely no different than an average fan who sits on his couch and whines about how we should replace Player X. Like that average fan, you never explain how we should replace him. Only that he should be cut loose so we can expect a better player to somehow fall from the heavens and grace us with the perfect alternative.

You like to boast about the hours you pour into watching game film. Do everyone (including yourself) a favor and prove it! Pointing a few bad plays and saying a player sucks because of them is not the depth I would expect out of someone who calls himself an analyst. Convince me that resigning Clark was a bad idea. Convince me why re-signing Casey was a bad idea. Telling me they suck isn't going to do it. Guess what? Their backups suck even worse. Simply cutting them from the roster isn't the answer. In the years I've been reading this site, I have yet to see you present a viable answer to the constant stream of problems you present to the readers here. Your rants have only pointed out that the current situation isn't good enough...which means absolutely nothing without a solution.

You act like you're a better GM than Colbert. Prove it.

[Ed Burns Profile]

I like the signing of Will Allen, as he's definitely an upgrade over Ty Carter. Bringing back Randle El, and signing Scott, and Battle will help with depth. This obviously changes the Draft boards now. I'd still like to see us Draft a Corner in the 1st or 2nd Rounds. Although with that said, I wouldn't be pissed if we drafted Farriors' replacement either. Slow-A-Foote coming back would provide depth, but he should back up Key Fox. All in all we signed some value this year, and hopefully our late round draft picks contribute. I'm hoping our 5th, 6th, and 7th Round picks finally contribute, instead of playing elsewhere, or rot the bench...

[UKBlackNGold Profile]

The signing of Allen is of more importance really, . . . he's an upgrade over Carter.

The resigning of Clark will look great if Troy stays healthy, . . . if Troy continues his injury woes,
we can only hope Allen makes a better job of disguising Clarks inabilities than what Ty Carter did!

Clark is average, if he was any good, he'd have stepped up and made the loss of Troy less of an
issue, didn't happen.

We haven't shown much interest in getting a CB in, so it's looking ever more likely that we'll
be picking a Corner in round 1, it has to be the single biggest urgent whole we need to fill. Some of
those O'linemen are gonna be tough to pass over though!

[IronCity__Man Profile]

Ahhh, such a ridiculously predictable response....
Your pointless and egotistical rants have been called out time and time again by users on this board. The sad part of it is, if you'd listen to the feedback you've been provided and do any real analysis, you might actually have a reason to be cocky. As it stands, you're absolutely no different than an average fan who sits on his couch and whines about how we should replace Player X.
You act like you're a better GM than Colbert. Prove it.

Agreed. Still Mill do you expect every player in Black and Gold to make the 100% correct play on every play? Do you realize there are 11 players on the other side of the ball from the Steelers, many very good, who block or break blocks. Do yo realize there is not one single NFL team that can employ a bunch of robots to get out there and play. If you were a Colts fan would you be calling Peyton Manning a piece of crap because of his Super Bowl interception? Please sit down and begin review of other teams players and see if they don't make errors or get beat or make mistakes. Then add up those mistakes and rank players in relation to one another. Your analysis is so short sighted as it stands. I say this to try and invoke some postive criticism. Joe Greene and Jack Lambert got beat on plays - probably a lot of them so are not worthy of the hall of fame.

I agree that Ryan Clark is not the best db the steelers ever had and I wish we still had Chris Hope at the position. But how many free safeties are planting Brandon Jacobs in his tracks? What do you mean routinely gets trucked by RBs? I am sure it has happened but I have also watched Clark make a good number of no gain tackles myself. And I don't have the luxury of rewinding the tape. You do not relate a players ability or performance to any one else except your own expectations. It seems like most of those expectations are fantasy. Don't get me wrong, I think you offer much insight as well. But if someone disagrees with you they are a moron. And what is with the constant threat of going to the moderators or threatening banning when someone disagrees with you. Are you that much of a spoiled little brat that you can't enter an intelligent arguement? If anyone should be banned around here it should be CincoOcho because of his constant sick and disgusting posts. - but I don't here any moderators calling for that.

[IronCity__Man Profile]

Kreider: You act like you're a better GM than Colbert. Prove it

Not only does he think he is a better GM than Colbert but also better than the Bill Parcells and the Miami Dolphins because they offered Clark a contract as well.

[SteelerFanInPatsLand Profile]

Still,

Why do you think Will Allen is a “sensible signing” for the Steelers’ safety position? Allen has only been able to start two games in the past three season for a lousy Tampa Bay team that has now cut him. That’s Sean Mahan’s profile. You’re not confusing him with the Will Allen of Miami are you?

The Will Allen the Steelers just signed was Tampa’s special teams captain and was first alternate for special teams at the ‘09 Pro Bowl. Sounds great, but, what he adds at safety is anybody’s guess.

[KreidersRage Profile]

Still,

Why do you think Will Allen is a “sensible signing” for the Steelers’ safety position? Allen has only been able to start two games in the past three season for a lousy Tampa Bay team that has now cut him. That’s Sean Mahan’s profile. You’re not confusing him with the Will Allen of Miami are you?

The Will Allen the Steelers just signed was Tampa’s special teams captain and was first alternate for special teams at the ‘09 Pro Bowl. Sounds great, but, what he adds at safety is anybody’s guess.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but Mill could have meant that it was a good signing because of the depth and special teams contribution Allen could give us. That doesn't answer the question of what Mill's plan to fill the starting safety spot would have been, of course. Had Mill actually expanded on a thought, we might know his answers to some of these questions. But obviously he didn't do that.

[KreidersRage Profile]

Agreed. Still Mill do you expect every player in Black and Gold to make the 100% correct play on every play? Do you realize there are 11 players on the other side of the ball from the Steelers, many very good, who block or break blocks. Do yo realize there is not one single NFL team that can employ a bunch of robots to get out there and play. If you were a Colts fan would you be calling Peyton Manning a piece of crap because of his Super Bowl interception? Please sit down and begin review of other teams players and see if they don't make errors or get beat or make mistakes. Then add up those mistakes and rank players in relation to one another. Your analysis is so short sighted as it stands. I say this to try and invoke some postive criticism. Joe Greene and Jack Lambert got beat on plays - probably a lot of them so are not worthy of the hall of fame.

I agree that Ryan Clark is not the best db the steelers ever had and I wish we still had Chris Hope at the position. But how many free safeties are planting Brandon Jacobs in his tracks? What do you mean routinely gets trucked by RBs? I am sure it has happened but I have also watched Clark make a good number of no gain tackles myself. And I don't have the luxury of rewinding the tape. You do not relate a players ability or performance to any one else except your own expectations. It seems like most of those expectations are fantasy. Don't get me wrong, I think you offer much insight as well. But if someone disagrees with you they are a moron. And what is with the constant threat of going to the moderators or threatening banning when someone disagrees with you. Are you that much of a spoiled little brat that you can't enter an intelligent arguement? If anyone should be banned around here it should be CincoOcho because of his constant sick and disgusting posts. - but I don't here any moderators calling for that.

Yeah. It pains me to see someone have this kind of forum, with the ability to reach as many loyal Steeler fans as could potentially read this site, and not offer any real value. To me, that's a lost opportunity.

Any schmuck can start an online blog and rant about players they hate. It takes someone with some actual knowledge and effort, however, to actually be able to put some real analysis into the conditions surrounding the world's greatest sports franchise

Mill apparently has the time to watch some film and write up some articles, so I'm going to reason that he could probably reach that peak of doing actual, in-depth analysis if he really wanted to.

Instead, he's much more interested in doing whatever is necessary to prove to everyone how right and infallible he is.

Mill, take the effort you put in defending yourself, and apply that to your actual analysis. If you put that much effort into your writing, hell, you could win a damn Pullitzer.

You need to understand that being wrong isn't a bad thing. You can own up to that. Really, it's OK. Readers understand you're human and can make mistakes. If you'd simply admit to your mistakes, and be upfront with them, then those mistakes would slide right by without even a second look. Instead, you're like the weatherman who calls for rain everyday, then jumps up and down screaming how smart he is when, in fact, it does eventually rain; never acknowledging the 3 days of sunshine prior. And when someone does point out the sunshine, you cup your hands over your ears, and insist that it rained all of those days.


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One of my favorite writers is Bill Simmons from ESPN. I know he's very much reviled by many Steeler fans because of his obvious affection for the Patriots and Boston sports. But I like him for one primary reason; he's honest and upfront with not only his readers, but with himself.

He'll offer up his theory on something. If he's right, then sure, he'll do the pounding his chest routine. But that's OK, because, when he's wrong, he'll gladly quote himself and call himself an idiot (there was a period when, after being wrong about something, he'd end the paragraph with the sentence "The lesson, as always, I'm an idiot"). Even better, he'll explain exactly why he was wrong why he should have seen it in the first place. I can respect that.

On top of that, he doesn't call himself an analyst, or pretend to be one. Sure, he likes to break down the dynamics of certain teams, leagues, and even individual games. But he does it with the full admission that he's just a guy with a website, and as prone to errors as the next guy. The only reason he's writing the articles and not someone else is because he happens to be a coherent writer, and because he wanted to do it as a full time job. He admits all of these things.

Learn something from that, Mill. I like to believe that the Still Mill characture is nothing more than act; a persona created purely created as a vessel to deliver your articles in a more comical context.

And still, I've seen the droves of readers you've pushed away from the site, and I end up coming to the inevitable conclusion that you are, in fact, truly whom you present yourself as being. If that's the case, maybe you should create a new persona for the site. This persona should certainly mirror your true personality. After all, that is what makes you, you. But build upon it. Take that persona from the defensive positioning it's been pushed into, and branch it out into something that doesn't need to be attacked. I understand that you like the confrontation. I understand that it's an ego trip for you to think your opinions are higher than all the nay-sayers. I get that you're the type of person who doesn't like hanging out with the rest of the "sheep". But imagine how much of an ego boost it'd be if you had throngs of Steeler fans on your side. They won't all agree with your opinions, and that's a good thing. But they would respect you. They'd be more apt to pat you on the back and tell you what a good job you're doing, instead of constantly trying to tear you down.

I once read something you wrote where you openly called yourself a "leader". Should a leader really be spending the majority of his time defending himself from those he is supposed to be giving direction to? Well, that's what I see here. And it's a sad sight, for sure, to know what it's like and would it could be like.

All you need is a little humility, and a little redirection of energy.

[stiller43 Profile]

I love how the management of the Steelers run a team with the most Superbowls of anyone (including 2 in the past 5 years), and year-in-year-out have a chance to to compete for a Superbowl, and you Mill can do is criticize them for almost every single one of their moves.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's definitely Farrior's time to go, but can you really point out that many players in the NFL who would be better fits for our defense who could step in right away and take the places of guys like Clark, Farrior, etc.? Don't forget about the fact they have to learn "Dick LeBeau's vaunted complicated defense."

[deltadweller Profile]

Quoting KR "Any schmuck can start an online blog and rant about players they hate. It takes someone with some actual knowledge and effort, however, to actually be able to put some real analysis into the conditions surrounding the world's greatest sports franchise".

I was just wondering when you're starting your site?;) JK

I get what you’re saying. When I started on this site a few years ago I thought, wow, someone has taken the time and energy to breakdown game film for all the diehard Stiller fans. I really appreciate that effort. Over the past few years however it seems like if you disagree you're obviously a moron. I like to think that intelligent people can disagree without resorting to name calling. You know what, if I'm wrong present facts and show me the errors of my ways, but try to do it with some tact. I'm way too old for nonsensical trash talking. I understand that a lot of people enjoy that, and if that's what you're into, go for it. I think you need to reserve that for the members that like that sort of thing. That's not just Mill, but the litany of people that just like to stir stuff up. I think Mill has some very good insights, but Hell hath no fury like a Mill scorned. Lol

[KreidersRage Profile]

I was just wondering when you're starting your site?;) JK

I know you typed that sentence as a light-hearted stab, so don't think this little rebuttle is necessarily directed at you, but it really does bother me when people seriously try to use that argument to deflect critisism.

For one, I could turn around and say "well, which NFL team is Mill running that gives him the right to criticize Colbert?", or "When was the last time Mill played safety in the NFL?".

But the real reason I don't like that argrument is because I don't claim to have any insider knowledge. I don't claim to be an analyst. Therefore, I don't try to pass myself off as one, and don't write articles for a site in which I claim to be God's gift to football analysis. I don't claim to have anything special to give the readers.

That's exactly why I come to sites like Stillers.com. I want to get that knowledge I don't currently have. But, as it stands, Mill is currently the primary writer for this site, and I'm not getting that information off of him. And if I'm not getting it, then I know plenty of other people aren't either. And that's the frustrating part. If he has the knowledge and connections he thinks he does, then he's doing a huge disservice to this community by not sharing it to the fullest extent possible.

[IronCity__Man Profile]

Here is a list of unrestricted free agents at safety (some are SS) - obviously I didn't change the status of a few of these players since Allen and Clark are still on it. Someone pick out players you wish the steelers would sign other than Clark since if we would have lost him we would have been in dire straights to sign another. For my list, I will take Sharper out of contention because of his price tag. The only true starters on my short list then would be Mike Brown (former Bear that play is highly suspect...Bear fan in my office was glad to see him go - signed one year deal with KC in 2009) and Sean Jones of the Eagles which may have been a good grab for the steelers. Jones signed a one year deal worth 3 million with the Eagles in 2009 after leaving Cleveland (played SS there) and Ealgles don't seem interested in retaining him. The rest of the players are weak in stats and/or age.

Will Allen Buccaneers
Mike Brown Chiefs
Tyrone Carter Steelers
Ryan Clark Steelers
Todd Johnson Bills
Sean Jones * Eagles
Kevin Kaesviharn Titans
Marquand Manuel Lions
Lawyer Milloy Seahawks
Donnie Nickey Titans
Jermaine Phillips Buccaneers
Pierson Prioleau Saints
Mark Roman 49ers
Brian Russell Jaguars
Bryan Scott Bills
Darren Sharper Saints
Matt Ware Cardinals
Roy Williams Bengals