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[jstallworth82 Profile]

Scream all you want but Byron is playing with more poise, brains, and confidence than Ben is and the team hasn't lost a beat. That being said I just wish if Ben was slumping we should be more willing to put Byron in. Screw egos and favorites, Right now Mr. Leftwich is playing more consistant.

[indysteel Profile]

Not sure on this one.

Byron has not had the same amount of time in the game as Ben.

Byron is a good back-up....but let's be honest...there is a reason he was available.

Either way, I guess it is a good problem to have.

Of course, if Ben is not ready for the playoffs and Byron has to play and they lose....then we will all (a) curse Tomlin for having the nerve to play Ben in the last meaningless game of the season; and (b) be calling for Byron to leave town immediately.

[jstallworth82 Profile]

Not sure on this one.

Byron has not had the same amount of time in the game as Ben.

Byron is a good back-up....but let's be honest...there is a reason he was available.

Either way, I guess it is a good problem to have.

Of course, if Ben is not ready for the playoffs and Byron has to play and they lose....then we will all (a) curse Tomlin for having the nerve to play Ben in the last meaningless game of the season; and (b) be calling for Byron to leave town immediately.

He has almost 50 starts so he has experience.

And there may soon be a reason Ben will be available if he continues to regress into Daah which way do I throw.

Right now even without the playing time he makes quicker decisions, better decisions, does not hold the ball too long, and doesn't routinely take bad sacks.

Against Cleveland it took Ben almost an entire Half to score on the lowly Browns.. The fing Browns!!! So I guess that means he can lead a team against a quality team IN THE PLAYOFFS?

He is not the same QB that we had 2 years ago. He has refused to progress, and has not accomplished anything of note for 2 years except basically lead the league in getting sacked.

The NFL is a business and as much as he is liked how long do you think it will take to say adios if he can not live up to his paycheck? I know that if I owned the team he would have to impress me in the Playoffs or I would be seeking another starter. You can not blame it all on the O-Line. He is nowhere near where he should be maturity wise as a starting QB in the NFL and it does not look like he is willing to improve.

[JumboHeadYouks Profile]

Not sure on this one.

Byron has not had the same amount of time in the game as Ben.

Byron is a good back-up....but let's be honest...there is a reason he was available.

Either way, I guess it is a good problem to have.

Of course, if Ben is not ready for the playoffs and Byron has to play and they lose....then we will all (a) curse Tomlin for having the nerve to play Ben in the last meaningless game of the season; and (b) be calling for Byron to leave town immediately.

He has almost 50 starts so he has experience.

And there may soon be a reason Ben will be available if he continues to regress into Daah which way do I throw.

Right now even without the playing time he makes quicker decisions, better decisions, does not hold the ball too long, and doesn't routinely take bad sacks.

Against Cleveland it took Ben almost an entire Half to score on the lowly Browns.. The fing Browns!!! So I guess that means he can lead a team against a quality team IN THE PLAYOFFS?

He is not the same QB that we had 2 years ago. He has refused to progress, and has not accomplished anything of note for 2 years except basically lead the league in getting sacked.

The NFL is a business and as much as he is liked how long do you think it will take to say adios if he can not live up to his paycheck? I know that if I owned the team he would have to impress me in the Playoffs or I would be seeking another starter. You can not blame it all on the O-Line. He is nowhere near where he should be maturity wise as a starting QB in the NFL and it does not look like he is willing to improve.

Welcome Back Scalaid.... I knew you would be trolling under another name. Why don't you just say what you mean... You are glad Ben got hurt and you hope his injury is severe enough to keep him out of the playoffs.

That being said...there have been times this year that I too have wondered if we would be better off with Byron. Ben definitely has regressed. We are where we are because of our defense...this is a fact.

[BigE Profile]

Agreed, Byron gets rid of the ball much quicker than Ben. It seems as though our offense moves alot better with Byron in. Especially after the concussion, Byron would be a better choice to start in the playoffs than Ben. Ben is careless with the football, makes stupid, late throws like the pick he threw today and seems indecisive alot of times. I know the offensive line sucks, but it is the same line that blocks for Byron than for Ben, and it seems Byron plays better.

[BigE Profile]

I have to agree with a.k.a Scalaid. I never see Ben studying charts on the sideline when he goes off the field, like other qb's do. He just stands on the sidelines with his arms crossed looking like a complete idiot. I have always questioned Ben's preperation habits leading up to game day. I'm not sure he is the type of guy that puts in alot of film study and preperation. Right now he is clogging down the offense.

[PsychoWard Profile]

I have to agree with a.k.a Scalaid. I never see Ben studying charts on the sideline when he goes off the field, like other qb's do. He just stands on the sidelines with his arms crossed looking like a complete idiot. I have always questioned Ben's preperation habits leading up to game day. I'm not sure he is the type of guy that puts in alot of film study and preperation. Right now he is clogging down the offense.

Probably because you don't even watch the games. I see been with his nose in pictures of the defense nearly every time he is off the field.

Anyone advocating Leftwich starting over Ben(assuming he is ready to go) is an absolute fucking moron.

That's all that needs to be said.

I hate to come off so aggressively but this man was available FOR A REASON.

This team lives or dies with its franchise QB, get fucking used to it.

[shawnlucas Profile]

I have to agree with a.k.a Scalaid. I never see Ben studying charts on the sideline when he goes off the field, like other qb's do. He just stands on the sidelines with his arms crossed looking like a complete idiot. I have always questioned Ben's preperation habits leading up to game day. I'm not sure he is the type of guy that puts in alot of film study and preperation. Right now he is clogging down the offense.

The guy never was much of a worker, according to reports. Then he tasted ultimate victory very early, which can do one of two things, make the guy hungry for more, or cause him to become completely complacent. Add in the fact that he may have left part of his skull lodged in the windshield of a Buick and maybe the guy just doesn't care that much about football. I know that my perspective changed a lot when my father died and things that meant a lot to me before suddenly meant less to me and other things became much higher priorities in my life. Perhaps that's what happened to Ben.

Then again, maybe he's just a lazy, arrogant asshole.

[PsychoWard Profile]

I have to agree with a.k.a Scalaid. I never see Ben studying charts on the sideline when he goes off the field, like other qb's do. He just stands on the sidelines with his arms crossed looking like a complete idiot. I have always questioned Ben's preperation habits leading up to game day. I'm not sure he is the type of guy that puts in alot of film study and preperation. Right now he is clogging down the offense.

The guy never was much of a worker, according to reports. Then he tasted ultimate victory very early, which can do one of two things, make the guy hungry for more, or cause him to become completely complacent. Add in the fact that he may have left part of his skull lodged in the windshield of a Buick and maybe the guy just doesn't care that much about football. I know that my perspective changed a lot when my father died and things that meant a lot to me before suddenly meant less to me and other things became much higher priorities in my life. Perhaps that's what happened to Ben.

Then again, maybe he's just a lazy, arrogant asshole.

You are a troll.

This post should result in an immediate ban.

Let's see those "reports".

[shawnlucas Profile]

You are a troll.

This post should result in an immediate ban.

Let's see those "reports".

Okay, replace reports with speculation. I've heard much speculation over the years that Ben doesn't exactly burn the midnight oil when it comes to preparation.

I was simply speculating on two possibilities.

Way to live up to that name and overreact.

[PsychoWard Profile]

You are a troll.

This post should result in an immediate ban.

Let's see those "reports".

Okay, replace reports with speculation. I've heard much speculation over the years that Ben doesn't exactly burn the midnight oil when it comes to preparation.

I was simply speculating on two possibilities.

Way to live up to that name and overreact.

Yes, a warrior for our team, the first to bring a Super Bowl ring to Pittsburgh in decades goes down and faux-fans like yourself troll.

You got your reaction mouth-breather, back to your hole.

[indysteel Profile]

Byron might have 50 starts...but not with the Steelers.

As they say, the back-up QB is always the fan favorite...until they actually have to play for an extended period of time.

I don't doubt Lefty is a good back up. Nor do I doubt he might be capable of winning a game or two while BR7 nurses an injury.

But to think that Lefty is the answer over BR7 is a reach. That said, I tend to agree that BR7 is not having a good year and that many of the criticisms tend to be warranted.

I guess we take the good with the bad.

[thesteelhammer Profile]

You guys need to remember that when Byron comes into a game, the defense has game planned and watched tape of the starter, not for Byron. It makes a difference.

[Hagerstown Steelman Profile]

If Ben can not go in the playoffs I would not be happy. However, Leftwich can get the job done. Especially since with our defense if you limit mistakes and can score 20pts you should be good in most games.

Does Ben hold the ball to long, yes. However, no one gives a shit when it results in a long completion.

BUT, who would you rather have in the huddle when you need late score? Romo? McNabb? give me a break. Give me Big Ben and away we go. Also, don't forget that Leftwich signed a one year contract and wants to start some where. It would be doubtful if he is even in Pgh next year.

As to why Ben was in the game. How about our offense has sucked. Not sure that Cleveland was the game to get them on track. However, if Ben sits and plays like shit in the playoffs all of the posts would point to this game not getting any work. If we were all so smart we would be employed by the Steelers instead of posting here.

[WoodsonOfSteel Profile]

When all of y'alls dust settles...

At the end of the day... I'm more confident with Byron leading the team in the playoffs if necessary than Batch.

If Ben knows what is good for him, he'll take some bench time... Possibly bring his season to an end.

All this warrior talk... How tough he is... Blah blah blah in my ears. All that stubborn machismo crap is going to do is shorten his career... But then again... Maybe, as stated previously, he doesn't care.

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[Homer J Profile]

The best quarterback in the world is always that second-string guy. The uniform is clean. His bell hasn't been rung yet. He's hasn't fumbled a snap from center or thrown an interception.

That said, Leftwich was a top performer until two years of injuries and the emergence of Gerrard at JAX made him expendable. But he's every bit the warrior that BB is. Remember his Marshall teammates carrying him down the field to lead a touchdown drive when he could barely walk???????

None of us know exactly how badly injured Ben has been this year...or how many birdies he saw floating over his head when he woke up this morning. I think we all know that Ben's shoulder injury has affected his accuracy. Beyond that, it's all speculation.

Sunday's injury gives Tomlin a chance to let Lefty have more reps with the starters. It will give Benji time to heal, but if he can't practice next week, he shouldn't start.

I think either one of these guys can lead the Steelers to the Super Bowl, and I'm glad Tomlin can choose between these two. He gets paid to make the choice, and he knows more about the physical condition of Roethlisberger than any of us.

[ILLSTILL Profile]

Well, I must be fucking scalaid too, then.

[Radconpro Profile]

Ben is the man to take us to the Superbowl...but guess what? Leftwhich can do the same! One thing about Byron......receivers be READY cause he has a rocket of an arm and ya gotta be ready to catch the ball!

[Radconpro Profile]

And BOTH of them are better than Tony Homo of the Cryboys...who makes HOW much money? The big question is NEXT year....... do we keep Charlie B. or Byron L.............hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[Homer J Profile]

And BOTH of them are better than Tony Homo of the Cryboys...who makes HOW much money? The big question is NEXT year....... do we keep Charlie B. or Byron L.............hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I don't see any way we can afford Lefty next year. Some team will pay him to compete for their number one job. I LOVE the way Lefty has handled things here this year....working hard...saying and doing all the right things....he's been clubhouse gold. And he's been terrific on the field when needed. But the money we'd have to spend to keep him here could probably better be used to pay for an offensive line upgrade.

And Batch would seem to be an SFL (Steeler for Life) in the Dick Hoak mold. Local guy. Plays here. Stays here. Coaches here. Guys like Homestead Charlie give a team its continuity, personality, and insitutional memory. Some NFL teams are no more than laundry....different players and staff every year but the uniforms stay the same. Then there are the Steelers, with as many coaches as stadiums in the last 40 years. Batch stays. Whether he's backup quarterback or not, that's to be determined.