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Rooney's shitty field forces city to bypass Army-Navy game
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"The Army-Navy game doesn't fit into our scheduling process right now. We debated it back and forth, but elected to pass," Mr. Sacco said.
Bullshit!! Pitt's season ENDS in late November. Starting next year, Army and Navy will play on the second Saturday in December. Heinz Field is VACANT on Saturdays in December.
There is only 1 reason why this incedible opportunity -- an opportunity to showcase Pittsburgh and show our appreciation to the armed forces -- was bypassed: because Heinz Field is a bush league cow pasture that would not be able to sustain games in December on back-to-back days.
Sure, the big might have gone to another city, but this bypass means Pgh. won't even be considered. It's a shame that Rooney's stubborn idiocy is literally preventing the city of Pgh. to showcase our fine city, and our fine fans and citizens, for a game that represents 1 of the greatest rivalries in college football and shows our patriotism and respect for the Army and the Navy. Unreal.
The beauty for the Rooneys is this...
NOW, when people ridicule them over the shitladen sod field, they can say, "Hey, we gave up the Army-Navy Classic to keep the field in good shape for the Stillers and Panthers."
What shitbags they are. PUT THE FUKING FIELD TURF IN, you jackasses. Only cheapass, dumbass Rooney could botchfuk such a golden opportunity. Fuk Rooney.
"The Army-Navy game doesn't fit into our scheduling process right now. We debated it back and forth, but elected to pass," Mr. Sacco said.
Bullshit!! Pitt's season ENDS in late November. Starting next year, Army and Navy will play on the second Saturday in December. Heinz Field is VACANT on Saturdays in December.
There is only 1 reason why this incedible opportunity -- an opportunity to showcase Pittsburgh and show our appreciation to the armed forces -- was bypassed: because Heinz Field is a bush league cow pasture that would not be able to sustain games in December on back-to-back days.
Sure, the big might have gone to another city, but this bypass means Pgh. won't even be considered. It's a shame that Rooney's stubborn idiocy is literally preventing the city of Pgh. to showcase our fine city, and our fine fans and citizens, for a game that represents 1 of the greatest rivalries in college football and shows our patriotism and respect for the Army and the Navy. Unreal.
The beauty for the Rooneys is this...
NOW, when people ridicule them over the shitladen sod field, they can say, "Hey, we gave up the Army-Navy Classic to keep the field in good shape for the Stillers and Panthers."
What shitbags they are. PUT THE FUKING FIELD TURF IN, you jackasses. Only cheapass, dumbass Rooney could botchfuk such a golden opportunity. Fuk Rooney.
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It's not because they're cheap, but because they just like the grass for whatever reason.
They spend more to re-sod the damn thing every year than they ever would on Field Turf.
That said, who cares if Pittsburgh doesn't host the Army/Navy game?
They spend more to re-sod the damn thing every year than they ever would on Field Turf.
That said, who cares if Pittsburgh doesn't host the Army/Navy game?
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Jeemie wrote:That said, who cares if Pittsburgh doesn't host the Army/Navy game?
Thanks, Creamie, for exposing your sheer idiocy and ignorance for the entire board to see. Obviously, you've never attended a game at a service academy, nor have you ever watched an Army-Navy game on TV. It is therefore useless to exaplain to you the significance of this game. Go back under your rock, Creamer.
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I wouldn't want the game there either if it fucks up the field for our Steelers. I'm sure although people would love to see the army-navy game in Pittsburgh, 99% of em would much rather see a Steelers playoff game. The ownership is doing what's best for the Steelers, we need that field in good shape come playoff time.
Sure I'd like to see field turf too, but ultimately it's up to what the players want.
Sure I'd like to see field turf too, but ultimately it's up to what the players want.
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StillMill wrote:Jeemie wrote:That said, who cares if Pittsburgh doesn't host the Army/Navy game?
Thanks, Creamie, for exposing your sheer idiocy and ignorance for the entire board to see. Obviously, you've never attended a game at a service academy, nor have you ever watched an Army-Navy game on TV. It is therefore useless to exaplain to you the significance of this game. Go back under your rock, Creamer.
I know the significance...it's just not enough for me to care if it's ever held in Pittsburgh.
It would do little financially for the city, and one doesn't need to care about a football game between the service academies to display patriotism or respect/gratitude for the military.
I swear...you DO go out of your way to find things to be pissed about and act superior over.
What a HELL of a way to live.
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Jeemie wrote:StillMill wrote:Jeemie wrote:That said, who cares if Pittsburgh doesn't host the Army/Navy game?
Thanks, Creamie, for exposing your sheer idiocy and ignorance for the entire board to see. Obviously, you've never attended a game at a service academy, nor have you ever watched an Army-Navy game on TV. It is therefore useless to exaplain to you the significance of this game. Go back under your rock, Creamer.
I know the significance...it's just not enough for me to care if it's ever held in Pittsburgh.
It would do little financially for the city, and one doesn't need to care about a football game between the service academies to display patriotism or respect/gratitude for the military.
I swear...you DO go out of your way to find things to be pissed about and act superior over.
What a HELL of a way to live.
1. "It would do little financially for the city." EACH team has to bring its full complement of players, trainers, doctors, coaches, and CADETS/MIDSHIPMEN, and so forth.....which is at least 4,000 people PER team. That would be 8,000 hotel rooms. Duh-uh......."It would do little financially for the city." PLUS, each team has a NATIONAL following of fans (typically graduates), which travel to these games in huge flocks. Again, MORE hotel rooms filled up, plus restaurants, parking lots, txis, airplanes, buses, and so on. Add in THE PRESIDENT of the USA, plus a host of admirals and generals and so on. This would be a sold out game in Pittsburgh from 2 visiting teams. Ssying "It would do little financially for the city" is utterly asinine, but not surprising.
2. This is 1 of THE oldest rivalries in the NCAA. It pits 2 historic service academies, amidst a time of war when virtually every 1 of those Cadets/midshipmen will be in a combat zone, fighting to defend freedom, within a year after they graduate. Again, we all fully realize that you obviously have never attended a game at a service academy, nor have you ever watched an Army-Navy game on TV. It is therefore useless to explain to you the significance of this game. Yer a fuktard. Go back under your rock, Creampie.
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I've been to several Army-Navy games, and there's nothing like it.
But I'd be stunned if any city off the Amtrak Northeast Corridor gets the game.
The Corps of Cadets and Midshipmen travel to the game by train - as they have for a century. That's part of the tradition - and tradition means a great deal to the academies and their alumni and supporters.
Pittsburgh and Indy could bid on the game, but I can't imagine the game anywhere except along the East Coast, from Boston to Washington.....Philly is the neutral site....NY and Boston are home games for Army...
and Baltimore and Washington are home games for Navy. And all those sites are also more convenient to the military brass than the 'burgh.
I'd LOVE to see the game in the 'burgh, but - shitty field or no shitty field - it ain't gonna happen.
But I'd be stunned if any city off the Amtrak Northeast Corridor gets the game.
The Corps of Cadets and Midshipmen travel to the game by train - as they have for a century. That's part of the tradition - and tradition means a great deal to the academies and their alumni and supporters.
Pittsburgh and Indy could bid on the game, but I can't imagine the game anywhere except along the East Coast, from Boston to Washington.....Philly is the neutral site....NY and Boston are home games for Army...
and Baltimore and Washington are home games for Navy. And all those sites are also more convenient to the military brass than the 'burgh.
I'd LOVE to see the game in the 'burgh, but - shitty field or no shitty field - it ain't gonna happen.
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If the Stillers consistently dominated at the Heinz mud bog, I'd say keep it, regardless of other potential consequences. But we seemed to have lost a bit of the home field edge recently.....and there is no clear advantage to maintaining the home mud. So -- Field Turf is the way to go.
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Love the field!
it's called football, not indoor soccer.
it's called football, not indoor soccer.
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I gotta admit, I don't really care that much about the army/navy game ... I get the significance to all the people involved ... and I agree with jeemie, I don't have to care about the football game between the service academies to display patriotism or respect/gratitude for the military. I have plenty of friends/family/clients in the military, and I respect and love all of em', for their work, determination and devotion to our country and all of our livelihoods. But, as I'm purely a D1, and pro football fan (more specifically a Steeler fan) I just have absolutely no interest in watching second tier caliber (football) talent play a football game ... I'm not watching D2, high school, or even 2nd-tier-conference D1 games ... hell, I can't sit and watch the Monday night NFL game if it's 2 bad teams playing anymore ... I have a ton of other interests that I can spend time doing ... kids, wife, household projects, etc. And I DON'T MISS A SNAP OF STEELER FOOTBALL ... and haven't for 30 years. Because they are my interest, not neccessarily football itself. I'm not sure everyone who is a Steeler fan understands that, and it has definately changed the older I have gotten. My other interests and responsiblities lead me to do other things that I would rather do than sit down and watch a football game that I'm not interested in ... I just don't get how some people can't understand that and demand that such a game MUST be watched and "cared about" by everyone who is a Steeler fan or football fan.
And before Mill repeats again and again that someone must not have been to or watched the army/navy game, I have actually have been to the game in person, and watched on tv a few times, and i can honestly say i've been bored to death in all circumstances ... it's just not that exciting if you're only into "big time college and pro football" ... for reasons that are personal to each individual viewer as I mentioned above. To be perfectly frank, as I have gotten older, if the game doesn't have national championship implications on the college level, I'm not watching. That's why I have a HUGE problem with the ridiculous BCS system and all the "turd bowls" that are coming ... but that's for another argument.
As for the financial benifit to the city, Mill is correct ... as much as it kills me to say that sometimes ... there would be profits to be made by such an event. There's no denying that, but from purely a fans perspective, I really couldn't care one bit if the game was in Pittsburgh or not, either way I'm not going, or watching.
And before Mill repeats again and again that someone must not have been to or watched the army/navy game, I have actually have been to the game in person, and watched on tv a few times, and i can honestly say i've been bored to death in all circumstances ... it's just not that exciting if you're only into "big time college and pro football" ... for reasons that are personal to each individual viewer as I mentioned above. To be perfectly frank, as I have gotten older, if the game doesn't have national championship implications on the college level, I'm not watching. That's why I have a HUGE problem with the ridiculous BCS system and all the "turd bowls" that are coming ... but that's for another argument.
As for the financial benifit to the city, Mill is correct ... as much as it kills me to say that sometimes ... there would be profits to be made by such an event. There's no denying that, but from purely a fans perspective, I really couldn't care one bit if the game was in Pittsburgh or not, either way I'm not going, or watching.
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I'd rather have grass with no Army-Navy game than Field Turf with the Army-Navy game. The Steelers should be the number one concern.
If you really want the Army-Navy game, why not temporarily cover the real field with Field Turf for that game? (This is something I suggested for the HS games as well.) You can have your cake and eat it too.
As far as showcasing Pittsburgh is concerned, it's a complex that desperate towns like Cleveland have..... (Unlike most major cities, that town has no major college program to fall back on. There is no equivalent to the Pitt Panthers or Cincinnati Bearcats over there. The Clowns are it.) Pittsburgh needs the extra game like Warren Buffett needs extra money.....
If you really want the Army-Navy game, why not temporarily cover the real field with Field Turf for that game? (This is something I suggested for the HS games as well.) You can have your cake and eat it too.
As far as showcasing Pittsburgh is concerned, it's a complex that desperate towns like Cleveland have..... (Unlike most major cities, that town has no major college program to fall back on. There is no equivalent to the Pitt Panthers or Cincinnati Bearcats over there. The Clowns are it.) Pittsburgh needs the extra game like Warren Buffett needs extra money.....
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I'm filing this one under "I Don't Care".
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It would have been great for the city of Pittsburgh. I can't understand why we can't have the field turf. Personally I want the game played on a good surface, NOT SLOP, I care about recievers running precise pass patterns, not runners grinding it out in the muck.
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Who the hell cares...it's college football...big deal! And before you call me unpatriotic, I spent 24 years, 3 months and 10 days serving my country in the uniform of the US Air Force. Who else here has served? StillMill? Sorry, Cubscouts don't count.
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I'm at 19 years of service (Army) and counting....
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Leo wrote:If the Stillers consistently dominated at the Heinz mud bog, I'd say keep it, regardless of other potential consequences. But we seemed to have lost a bit of the home field edge recently.....and there is no clear advantage to maintaining the home mud. So -- Field Turf is the way to go.
Leo
I agree with you.
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It would be great to get! However, all that military stuff is located in the East Coast corridor. Six years USMC, attained the rank of SGT.
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First the field is grass because the players want it that way. 2nd If they wanted the field turf Rooney would put it in.
Air Force? Is that a real branch of the military? I served and have seen Combat in numerous campaigns. We are talking Army Navy not Air Force Girl Scouts.
Just Joking about the AF but my friend was over the 1st Gulf War and I visited his camp and was surprised to see Real Air Conditioners on tents. Only in the Air Force does roughing it mean A/C and maid service with catered meals. You guys don not really know what roughing it is.
Air Force? Is that a real branch of the military? I served and have seen Combat in numerous campaigns. We are talking Army Navy not Air Force Girl Scouts.
Just Joking about the AF but my friend was over the 1st Gulf War and I visited his camp and was surprised to see Real Air Conditioners on tents. Only in the Air Force does roughing it mean A/C and maid service with catered meals. You guys don not really know what roughing it is.
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jstallworth82 wrote:First the field is grass because the players want it that way. 2nd If they wanted the field turf Rooney would put it in.
Air Force? Is that a real branch of the military? I served and have seen Combat in numerous campaigns. We are talking Army Navy not Air Force Girl Scouts.
Just Joking about the AF but my friend was over the 1st Gulf War and I visited his camp and was surprised to see Real Air Conditioners on tents. Only in the Air Force does roughing it mean A/C and maid service with catered meals. You guys don not really know what roughing it is.
You do know that the main difference between the Army and Air Force is the Air Force folks get to choose when they go camping. Oh, and yes, the A/C, maid service, catered meals, choice bungalows at the sea side resorts, and, the best...the enlisted send our officers into combat. What's not to love??
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