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[PalmerSucks Profile]

About This "FlaccoSure Shut Up His Critics" Thing has been posted by Palmer Sucks at Stillers.com.

[JimPgh1 Profile]

Okay, so Flacco sucks. And we already know that Palmer sucks just from your screen name.

Oddly enough, from reading your article, it seemed that you could have substituted Ben's name in place of Flaccos a couple of times.

Underthrew a receiver who was behind the defense, resulting in a long gain, but not a TD. Ben does that all the time.
Threw to a receiver who was covered instead of a guy wide open. Ben does that as well. Why throw it to a guy open 5 yards downfield rather than force it to a receiver double-covered 20 yards downfield? I don't know, ask Ben.

Conclusion: Flacco sucks; Ben is going to the Pro Football HOF.

Question - Which QBs don't suck? All I've seen from you is negative this, negative that.

[Pommah Profile]

Mostly this article just reminds me of how mediocre New England is. Yet they are going to the super bowl. Because of a 92 yard drive by Flacco with time running out.

[isfry Profile]

Okay, so Flacco sucks. And we already know that Palmer sucks just from your screen name.

Oddly enough, from reading your article, it seemed that you could have substituted Ben's name in place of Flaccos a couple of times.

Underthrew a receiver who was behind the defense, resulting in a long gain, but not a TD. Ben does that all the time.
Threw to a receiver who was covered instead of a guy wide open. Ben does that as well. Why throw it to a guy open 5 yards downfield rather than force it to a receiver double-covered 20 yards downfield? I don't know, ask Ben.

Conclusion: Flacco sucks; Ben is going to the Pro Football HOF.

Question - Which QBs don't suck? All I've seen from you is negative this, negative that.

Hmm...I actually had a diffferent take on the article. Flacco had a pedestrian day against a bottom ranked defense. He did not, to his credit, put up his usual God-awful postseason numbers. I, too, saw the two Smith throws as keys to the game. If Joe passes that ball to his receiver instead of closing his eyes, throwing it straight up in the air and praying, that's 14 points for Balt. and game over the way Brady was flinging the rock. The 4th Q pick was also pretty telling. As for Ben being in the same realm, Jim PGh1, I would ask you the same thing I would ask Joe as he begs for the media's love: What has Joe Flacco EVER done of any real consequence in the NFL? EVER? Name one defining moment. Just one. The loss to the Patsies in the AFC Champ? Really? That's it? So he's never WON ANYTHING? Contrast that with Ben, whom you so quickly throw under the bus: BR7 has been to three Super Bowls. He was personally responsible for getting us to two of them, and personally responsible for winning one of the two we won. Kiss the rings, Average Joe, kiss the rings...

[SteelThatDon'tRust Profile]

Okay, so Flacco sucks. And we already know that Palmer sucks just from your screen name.

Oddly enough, from reading your article, it seemed that you could have substituted Ben's name in place of Flaccos a couple of times.

Underthrew a receiver who was behind the defense, resulting in a long gain, but not a TD. Ben does that all the time.
Threw to a receiver who was covered instead of a guy wide open. Ben does that as well. Why throw it to a guy open 5 yards downfield rather than force it to a receiver double-covered 20 yards downfield? I don't know, ask Ben.

Conclusion: Flacco sucks; Ben is going to the Pro Football HOF.

Question - Which QBs don't suck? All I've seen from you is negative this, negative that.

While I too think Palmer's article leans a bit too much into sour grapes territory, the insinuation that Ben and Joe are on the same level is ASININE.

[isfry Profile]

While I too think Palmer's article leans a bit too much into sour grapes territory, the insinuation that Ben and Joe are on the same level is ASININE.

Thank you.

[JimPgh1 Profile]

Okay, so Flacco sucks. And we already know that Palmer sucks just from your screen name.

Oddly enough, from reading your article, it seemed that you could have substituted Ben's name in place of Flaccos a couple of times.

Underthrew a receiver who was behind the defense, resulting in a long gain, but not a TD. Ben does that all the time.
Threw to a receiver who was covered instead of a guy wide open. Ben does that as well. Why throw it to a guy open 5 yards downfield rather than force it to a receiver double-covered 20 yards downfield? I don't know, ask Ben.

Conclusion: Flacco sucks; Ben is going to the Pro Football HOF.

Question - Which QBs don't suck? All I've seen from you is negative this, negative that.

While I too think Palmer's article leans a bit too much into sour grapes territory, the insinuation that Ben and Joe are on the same level is ASININE.

Well sir, you took my comments the wrong way. Perhaps I wasn't clear. Certainly Ben is better than Flacco, but I wanted to point out that he too does dumb things sometimes, as do all players. It just seems that the author refuses to give any credit at all to certain players.

It's kinda like Mill when it comes to Woodley. Even if Woodley get 3 sacks, he didn't accomplish anything, because it was a RB trying to block him or a backup tackle or whatever. If he does something bad, he's a bum; if he does something good, it doesn't count.

[SteelThatDon'tRust Profile]

Prolly should have assumed you didn't mean to insinuate the two are on par. Point taken.

[isfry Profile]

I may have jumped on that insinuation, too. My apologies. I actually heard a guy on sports radio the other day talking about who are the best 5 QB's in the NFL? He basically conceded Brady, Brees, Manning, and Rodgers without any real discussion whatsoever. The discussion then became, well who is number 5? Flacco's name was actually thrown out there, this show being hot on the heels of the greatest loss of his career, and the radio guy said something like, "I don't know, he's really in that Ben Roethlisberger category of QB's" or something like that. It's pretty amazing what one LOSS to an aging, shadow of their former selves Cheatriot team can do for a guy's image. Besides the obvious postseason wins stat, that should really end the discussion comparing Flak-O to BR7, in my opinion, here's a neat little tidbit:

Roethlisberger set a NFL rookie record in 2004 with five comeback wins in the fourth quarter, and six game-winning drives in the fourth quarter/overtime (including one playoff game). Roethlisberger has the most comeback wins (19) and game-winning drives (25) through the first seven seasons of a player's career. He is the only quarterback to reach 20 comeback wins before the age of 30. That's called clutch.

Yes, Joe Flacco engineered a drive to beat Pittsburgh in the reg season this year, and yes, that hurt, but it was one drive. I blame Lebeau for going limp, as usual, at the end of that game more than I am willing to credit the great Joe Flacco for that. He is still EONS away from being anything but a mddle of the pack QB with average skills, average numbers, and no resume. Win something, Joe. ANYTHING. Then maybe you'll get the love mommy never gave you.

[isfry Profile]

One last thing. For those interested, below is a link to Brian Billick's top 12 list of active QBs in the game. Keep in mind Brian Billick is a HUGE HOMER when you see where Jow Flacco falls on his list.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... top-12-qbs

[Fire Arians Profile]

flacco really did enough to win. if evans holds on to a ball that hit him in the numbers, ravens would be in the super bowl right now.

yeah i hate giving any of the ravens credit as much as the next steeler fan, but flacco wasn't the reason why the ravens lost.

[isfry Profile]

FA, I agree. And actually, I feel like Evans lost that game for them, even more than the kicker. But here's an interesting comparison to think about. On second down Flacco hits Evans on the numbers and Evans doesn't make the play. On third down Flacco makes an ASININE throw into double coverage at the three yard line. Best case scenario? 4th and goal, basically the same as incomplete. Worst case scenario? Turnover, no FG attempt, game over. Fortunate for them it wasn't picked, and they got even a chance at the kick. Contrast that with SB XLIII. Ben throws the ball on second down to Santonio in the end zone for the win and it goes right through his hands. On third down Ben makes a better throw. Makes a better play. Yes, terrific catch by Ton, but BR7 put the ball in the perfect place a SECOND TIME, giving his teammate a chance "to be great." I'm not saying Flacco is the worst starting QB in the game; there are probably 10 or fifteen below him. My point is just that he has been such a liability for so long for them that he finally puts up average numbers in a big game and doesn't single handedly lose it for them and the media wants to applaud him as having arrived. Moreover, he practically breaks down into tears at the postgame about "why won't you love me?" disregarding the fact that HE HAS NOT WON ANYTHING. This is the NFL, not elections for class president, Joe. Win something. That's how you get love in this league. Only a select few who have not won the big one ever got love (Barry Sanders and Dan Marino come to mind) and Joe just doesnt have the skill to be in their league, either.