It�s Choke
Time at the Apollo
Coughin�
As the original debunker of the Carson Palmer myth, I�ve
caught more than my share of crap for my view of the Golden Boy as an overrated
choker.
I could understand the ridicule a few years ago, back when
the Bengals looked like the NFL�s young up-and-comers. Since then, however,
they�ve steadily declined, until the only thing they�re in danger of clinching
is a spot in the AFC North cellar.
You�d think this would put an end to all the Palmer jock
riding � but no. No matter how many games the Bengals lose, Teflon Carson
escapes the blame. Granted, a team like Cincy has a lot of it to go around �
but should Palmer get off scot free the way he has?
Rather than catch heat, the Cornhole
King�s actually scored pity for the
team�s flops. Seriously, O.J. must go to bed jealous of what this guy�s managed
to pull off in Cincy.
To hear the whiners there, poor Palmer would be granted
early entry into the Hall of Fame if he had a defense anything like the
Steelers. But for all their crying about what he doesn�t have, maybe these
apologists ought to look at the gifts that Pampered Palmer�s enjoyed since the
day he stepped on
- A
top offensive line
- 1500-yard
run support
- An
elite WR corps
Again, it�s not just the benefits � it�s their CONSISTENCY
that matters most. With the exception of Peyton Manning, no other NFL QB has
enjoyed the chance to work with the same group of top WRs, year in, year out.
The QB can develop rapport, an advantage whose value can�t begin to be
expressed here.
For example: the longer a QB and receiver play together, the
better the QB knows him, and can count on him to be where he�s going to go with
the ball. (And that�s just for starters!) Now multiply that advantage by 3, and you�ll have an idea of the ridiculous luxury Palmer�s
enjoyed for most of his playing career.
3 top WRs, and the chance to play
with them year in and year out � how can a QB not put up impressive stats? Now imagine if Roethlisberger had
gotten to play with Burress, Ward and Randle-El each season. Think his numbers
wouldn�t be up just a little?
Palmer also enjoyed the same advantages during his college
years -- which is why I have the nerve to suggest he�s simply a decent system
QB surrounded by superior athletes. A pampered quarterback
who built a reputation beating up on inferior competition.
So then, have I brought all this up just to rip the guy?
Yes, and believe me I�m having fun doing it. But there is also a point to be
made.
To me, Carson Palmer is a textbook choker � and it�s
precisely his pampering that�s led to his gagging tendencies. Quite simply, when
you�ve always had it easy you generally don�t build up the mental toughness it
takes to succeed under adverse conditions. Kind of like a kid from the cushy
suburbs stumbling down a bad inner-city block; you know it�s not going to go
well for him.
Palmer�s built nice stats against lame competition, but
against playoff-caliber teams he�s tended to fade, particularly in the second
half. Last year�s loss to
But hey, Palmer racked up 400+ plus yards passing and 3 TDs
� not his fault, right? So what if he did about all his damage in the first
half � it�s up to the D to hold!� And so
the off-scot-freeness continues, especially in the
I�ve seen this same pattern in games Palmer�s played against
teams like Indy and
Now before you accuse me of cherry-picking games, let�s look
at Palmer�s season as a whole. Here I�ve broken down his situation stats to
give a look at how he performs as the games progress:
Attempts |
Att |
Comp |
Pct |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TD |
Int |
1st |
1st% |
20+ |
Sck |
Rate |
Attempts
1--10 |
110 |
80 |
72.7 |
994 |
9.0 |
56 |
7 |
4 |
52 |
47.3 |
11 |
0 |
106.4 |
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Attempts
11-20 |
110 |
81 |
73.6 |
868 |
7.9 |
50 |
3 |
3 |
41 |
37.3 |
11 |
0 |
94.1 |
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Attempts
21-30 |
101 |
65 |
64.4 |
601 |
6.0 |
28 |
6 |
2 |
32 |
31.7 |
6 |
0 |
92.1 |
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Attempts
31+ |
97 |
56 |
57.7 |
613 |
6.3 |
37 |
5 |
6 |
36 |
37.1 |
10 |
0 |
67.9 |
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As you can see, Palmer works like an old air conditioner:
starts out hot, then cools down gradually. The classic
fading pattern!
And the pattern continues, no matter how you break it down:
Half |
Att |
Comp |
Pct |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TD |
Int |
1st |
1st% |
20+ |
Sck |
Rate |
1st Half |
188 |
140 |
74.5 |
1,657 |
8.8 |
56 |
10 |
7 |
84 |
44.7 |
20 |
9 |
103.1 |
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2nd Half |
230 |
142 |
61.7 |
1,419 |
6.2 |
37 |
11 |
8 |
77 |
33.5 |
18 |
6 |
80.7 |
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Last 2
Minutes of Half |
46 |
27 |
58.7 |
280 |
6.1 |
30 |
0 |
4 |
16 |
34.8 |
4 |
0 |
40.1 |
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Great in the first half, mediocre
in the second. The god of gag strikes again!
And the last two minutes of each half, otherwise known as
�crunch time�? Ouch � we�re not even in Kordell territory here! (Well, maybe
that 0-4 TD-to-Int ratio.)
Quarters |
Att |
Comp |
Pct |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TD |
Int |
1st |
1st% |
20+ |
Sck |
Rate |
1st
Quarter |
86 |
58 |
67.4 |
769 |
8.9 |
56 |
6 |
2 |
40 |
46.5 |
9 |
6 |
109.1 |
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2nd
Quarter |
102 |
82 |
80.4 |
888 |
8.7 |
50 |
4 |
5 |
44 |
43.1 |
11 |
3 |
95.6 |
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3rd
Quarter |
106 |
73 |
68.9 |
708 |
6.7 |
37 |
6 |
3 |
36 |
34.0 |
9 |
4 |
94.4 |
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4th
Quarter |
124 |
69 |
55.6 |
711 |
5.7 |
32 |
5 |
5 |
41 |
33.1 |
9 |
2 |
69.0 |
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4th
Quarter within 7 |
115 |
64 |
55.7 |
681 |
5.9 |
32 |
4 |
5 |
38 |
33.0 |
9 |
0 |
66.6 |
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Same thing by quarters � Palmer fades like a new black shirt
tossed into a washing machine full of bleach. And the �4th quarter within
7� numbers drive home the point: he�s gagging it up even while the Bengals can
still run and use play-action.
Oooh
� I�m sooo crazy for even suggesting Palmer may not be quite the elite QB the TV droolers make him out to be!
Attempts |
Att |
Comp |
Pct |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TD |
Int |
1st |
1st% |
20+ |
Sck |
Rate |
�1-Through-10 |
110 |
80 |
72.7 |
994 |
9.0 |
56 |
7 |
4 |
52 |
47.3 |
11 |
0 |
106.4 |
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�11-Through-20 |
110 |
81 |
73.6 |
868 |
7.9 |
50 |
3 |
3 |
41 |
37.3 |
11 |
0 |
94.1 |
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�21-Through-30 |
101 |
65 |
64.4 |
601 |
6.0 |
28 |
6 |
2 |
32 |
31.7 |
6 |
0 |
92.1 |
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31+ |
97 |
56 |
57.7 |
613 |
6.3 |
37 |
5 |
6 |
36 |
37.1 |
10 |
0 |
67.9 |
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Finally, we look at raw attempts � why clearly the
Cincinnati Bengals cannot win games when Carson Palmer has to throw it more
than 30 times!
Now for a little perspective, let�s compare those numbers
with Roethlisberger�s:
Half |
Att |
Comp |
Pct |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TD |
Int |
1st |
1st% |
20+ |
Sck |
Rate |
1st Half |
172 |
109 |
63.4 |
1,264 |
7.3 |
43 |
14 |
6 |
66 |
38.4 |
18 |
18 |
98.1 |
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2nd Half |
116 |
84 |
72.4 |
1,116 |
9.6 |
45 |
9 |
3 |
61 |
52.6 |
15 |
16 |
117.6 |
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Last Two
Minutes of Half |
41 |
20 |
48.8 |
235 |
5.7 |
31 |
5 |
1 |
16 |
39.0 |
2 |
6 |
96.0 |
Looks like Ben gets stronger as the game goes on � good
thing he didn�t play QB at USC!
Attempts |
Att |
Comp |
Pct |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TD |
Int |
1st |
1st% |
20+ |
Sck |
Rate |
Attempts 1-10 |
110 |
76 |
69.1 |
868 |
7.9 |
43 |
9 |
4 |
41 |
37.3 |
15 |
0 |
104.7 |
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Attempts 11-20 |
106 |
67 |
63.2 |
840 |
7.9 |
45 |
6 |
3 |
47 |
44.3 |
9 |
0 |
94.9 |
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Attempts 21-30 |
57 |
37 |
64.9 |
512 |
9.0 |
31 |
5 |
1 |
28 |
49.1 |
6 |
0 |
115.5 |
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Attempts 31+ |
15 |
13 |
86.7 |
160 |
10.7 |
29 |
3 |
1 |
11 |
73.3 |
3 |
0 |
122.9 |
Here the numbers IMPROVE moving into the later-game
attempts. So much for the �Steelers can�t win if Ben has to throw it more than
__ times a game� crowd (but that�s a discussion for a different day).
Is
the world finally waking up to the truth?
I came across this post from a fan on a Cincy board by a guy
awake enough to begin facing reality. He�s also done a nice job of making my
point for me. (Thanks, Mr. Non-Braindead Bengals fan!)
Below are his observations, spelling errors and all:
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I
went back 2 years to look at what the Bengals record was if they were down by a
1 possession score with the ball inside of 3:30 in the 4th. Basically, the
Bengals have a chance the last possession in the game with a chance to win or
tie.
From
what I could find, they are 0-9 in the past 2 years (they have won games where
the defense held the opponents from game winning drives). This is specifically
for the Bengals offense to win a game with their last possession.
0
and freaking 9!!!�
2005:
2006:
2007:
After 3 years, I could not find one game where the Bengals
had the ball for the last (other teams did get possession back to take a knee)
possession and won. There were a few wins where the Bengals scored earlier in
the 4th to take the lead and won but never won with the last possession. These
are game-winning drives but not final game-winning drives. Great teams win,
with real GAME-WINNING DRIVES at some point.
In case you didn�t get that: the Bengals are
0-for-the-last-couple-seasons in games they�ve had a chance to win on their
last possession. �But how can this be when
they have a truly elite QB like Carson Palmer to lead them? I � cough cough �
have no � hack � idea!
Of course, like a good Bengals fan, the poster goes to the
edge of the diving board, but won�t jump off; quickly he makes sure he points
out all
Yes, as you scream �Jergens!� to commemorate Rosy Palmer�s
return to Heinz Swamp this Sunday, keep this in mind: the quarterback position
is about more than just having a strong arm. It�s about having a strong heart
and stomach too.
There�s a difference between being a great passer and being
a great quarterback. Palmer may be
the better passer, but he�ll never be the total-package quarterback that guys
like Roethlisberger are. One day they may even learn that in
The Steelers may be struggling lately, but that�s nothing
that a visit from Chokin� Carson can�t cure. Thing is though, he�s actually
fared better in
Like an NFL receiver once said: �getcha
popcorn ready!� Just be sure to chew it carefully � you wouldn�t want to choke
or anything.