Draft 2003, D-Backs: version 2.0
The D-backs tested Monday in Indy; in general, the CB ran, following the lead of the big two at the position, Newman and Trufant but, from early reports, the safeties did not.� The following information was taken from two sources: Bernie�s Insiders page tracking RUMORED Combine results and the TFY page, which admits less uncertainty.�
The results are organized to address the issues proposed in the D-side Overview.� Those were: Cover 3 player (whether CB or FS) and SS with TE coverage ability; additionally, a small CB (or NCB) table is provided.� As was true in the D-Back version 1.0, prospects are organized by speed, not in a round-for-round fashion easily found elsewhere.��
Key:
Both 40 times will be shown; listings are by the single fastest reported on TFY.� When Bernie times diverge, those will be
indicated as, say, (4.55).
DND:� Do not draft.
DNP: Did not participate
DNR: Did not run
DNL: Did not lift
VJ:� Vertical jump
BJ:� Figure it out.
Height shown as follows:� 5115 indicates 5�-11 5/8�; 6013 indicates 6�-1 3/8�and so on.
Cover 3: Generally, FS and bigger CB
Player |
Height |
Weight |
40 |
Reps |
Remarks |
CB Dennis Weathersby |
6005 |
204 |
4.37 4.39 |
9 |
Will move into 1st
round; still, rather weak. |
S Colin Branch |
5116 |
203 |
4.41 4.42 |
22 |
Chris Hope ran 4.46 and did
28 reps. |
S Terrence Keil |
5111 |
204 |
4.42 4.53 |
16 |
Teammate of Sammy Davis at
Texas A&M |
CB Sammy Davis |
5116 |
186 |
4.45 4.47 (4.41) |
19 |
More reps than any CB, 40�
VJ was better than any D-back. |
CB Marcus Trufant |
5111 |
199 |
4.46 4.48 (4.39) |
11 |
Bigger than expected,
slower than expected. |
FS Rashon Mathis |
6006 |
202 |
4.47 4.47 |
22 |
Strong enough to play
safety |
CB Andre Woolfolk |
6013 |
197 |
4.47 4.51 |
10 |
Weak and not as fast as
touted. |
CB Drayton Florence |
6002 |
198 |
4.47 inj. |
18 |
|
CB Charles Tillman |
6011 |
207 |
4.48 4.54 |
12 |
Would have to gain strength
to play safety but, generally, has Woolfolk measurables.� |
S Nnamdi Asomugha |
6023 |
213 |
4.48 4.53 |
16 |
Big school 2nd
day player with decent measurables. |
S Hanik Milligan |
6023 |
201 |
4.49 4.54 |
9 |
Pathetically weak. |
CB Michael Lehan |
5116 |
196 |
4.51 4.56 |
13 |
|
CB Chris Brown |
6003 |
195 |
4.57 4.62 |
15 |
|
FS Anthony Floyd |
5094 |
202 |
4.62 4.66 |
22 |
Produced at Louisville but
is short and slow, a perfect fit for the Colbert 2nd day plan. |
Not invited but figure to get drafted:
CB Terrence Findley, Tennessee-Martin.
S Jesse Sowells, Houston
CB Ivan Taylor, La.-Lafayette
S Frank Walker, Tuskegee
Discussion:
Players who produced in college and also have speed figure
to be available at 1.27 and in the mid-rounds too.� First round options are Davis, Mathis and Weathersby; mid-round
options include Branch, Tillman and Asomugha.�
Add players who were not invited to the Combine but also produced and do
have draftable measurables and it is absolutely clear that the PS ought not
consider any D-back who can�t get under 4.5.�
��
Small
CB:
Player |
Height |
Weight |
40 |
Reps |
Remarks |
Rod Babers |
5086 |
192 |
4.36 4.44 (4.40) |
15 |
Good strength, excellent
speed. |
Kevin Garrett |
5093 |
194 |
4.36 4.41 (4.32) |
DNL |
|
Terrence Newman |
5103 |
189 |
4.37 4.41 (4.32) |
DNL |
Deserves credit for
competing in a situation where he had little to gain and much to lose. |
BJ Tucker |
5104 |
188 |
4.39 4.42 |
16 |
Wisconsin player who made
some money Monday. |
Ricky Manning |
5085 |
185 |
4.47 4.61 |
12 |
That�s quite a spread in
his 40s. |
Eugene Wilson |
5103 |
192 |
4.52 4.54 (4.48) |
15 |
|
Terrence McGee |
5095 |
201 |
4.53 4.54 |
15 |
Northwestern State. |
Donald Strickland |
5100 |
187 |
4.54 4.56 |
16 |
Didn�t help himself though
measurables compare to the more highly regarded Wilson. |
DeJuan Groce |
5100 |
183 |
4.54 4.60 (4.48) |
18 |
Strong but slow, typical
Husker. |
Asante Samual |
5107 |
185 |
4.58 4.59 |
9 |
Small school player who
needed a big Combine.� Instead,
revealed as slow and weak. |
Korey Banks |
5097 |
188 |
4.60 4.69 |
15 |
Said to be a 4.40 guy but I
guess not. |
Brian Mance |
5103 |
189 |
4.68 4.72 |
18 |
Another short, strong, slow
guy. |
Shane Walton |
5105 |
184 |
4.69 4.70 |
11 |
Time to get on with life�s
work. |
Terrell Roberts |
5091 |
203 |
4.69 4.72 |
18 |
As above. |
Jason Goss |
5100 |
183 |
4.69 4.70 |
15 |
D.O. |
Torrie Cox |
5092 |
181 |
DNR |
DNL |
DND |
Discussion:
Oddly, except for the first four listed here, the remaining smallish CB generally were up the track when compared to the Cover 3 types above.
Strong
Safety types:
The top SS types didn�t compete; the rest ran slow.� Nick Barnett, who I had imagined as a SS, came in bulked up and worked out with the LB; however, he would have run no worse than third in this sad group.� Off the speed criteria discussed elsewhere, most of these stiffs are undraftable.� Exceptions are noted in boldface.� It may be worth considering Nnamdi Asomugha as a SS candidate; his stats are shown under Cover 3 above; of note, he�s about the same size as Hamlin (and Battle) but runs far better.� Listed as a CB suggesting the Lake Road, if in reverse.
Player |
Height |
Weight |
40 |
Reps |
Remarks |
Derek Pagel |
6010 |
208 |
4.55 459 |
25 |
Iowa tough guy; a Cowher
type. |
Antwoine Sanders |
6015 |
202 |
4.57 4.64 |
14 |
Too weak to be that slow. |
Nick Barnett |
6015 |
236 |
High 4.5s |
32 |
Certainly strong enough;
needs to slim down and get back towards that alleged 4.33. |
Curry Burns |
6003 |
216 |
4.59 4.60 |
19 |
|
Willie Pile |
6020 |
206 |
4.60 4.63 |
14 |
|
Todd Johnson |
6007 |
206 |
4.60 4.68 |
19 |
4.60 is marginally
draftable, 4.68 is not. |
Ken Hamlin |
6024 |
209 |
4.60 4.62 |
16 |
Not real strong, not nearly
fast enough.� 4th-5th
round in my book. |
Cato June |
6001 |
218 |
4.64 inj. |
DNL |
Big school slow safety,
DND. |
Donny Nickey |
6022 |
208 |
4.66 4.66 |
17 |
Consistently slow, DND. |
Gerome Sapp |
6001 |
216 |
4.68 4.69 |
DNL |
Big school slow safety,
DND. |
Norm LeJeune |
6003 |
200 |
4.62 4.68 |
11 |
Big school slow safety,
DND. |
Thomas Wright |
6013 |
201 |
4.77 4.79 |
13 |
Most DE run faster. |
Charles Drake |
6010 |
205 |
Inj. |
20 |
|
Terrence Holt |
6016 |
208 |
DNR |
16 |
|
Julian Battle |
6022 |
205 |
DNP |
DNP |
|
Mike Doss |
5101 |
207 |
DNP |
DNP |
|
Troy Polamula |
5101 |
206 |
DNP |
DNP |
|
Summary:
Despite Kevin Colbert�s recent pronouncements, speed is of the essence.� Since taking over here in 2000, Mr. Colbert has drafted impressively through the first two rounds but his record from round 3 to the close has not been good.� Of seven players selected in 2000 from the 3rd on, only (3) remain with the team and for one of those (Poteat), NFL truly does stand for not-for-long.� Three of five remain from the late picks in the class of 2001, however, all of those men are linemen; the speed guys, Roger Knight and Chris Taylor, were cut in camp.� The 2002 class looks little better; in fact, the only 2nd day D-side space player selected that year (Lavar Glover) got cut in camp too.� Typically, Mr. Colbert has ignored the measurables on Day 2 and, typically, he�s come away with nothing, at least not for the edge positions.� DB drafted by Colbert include: Poteat, Hope and Glover; add OLB Roger Knight and its clear why the Steeler ST coverage units have been among the slowest and least effective in all of football.� So long as Mr. Colbert pursues his day two modus where modest differences in productivity trump considerable differences in upside, those units, and the Steelers championship hopes, shall founder.�
On the plus side, Sammy Davis is just the kind of player that the Steelers have selected round 1 in the Colbert Era; good productivity, big school, good measurables.� IMO, Davis will be the guy at 1.27 though Rashon Mathis would constitute value at that spot too.� Of course, (1) DB won�t get it; the PS require a flood of talent at that position.�� To get there, Mr. Colbert will have to abandon his fixation on the small and slow (Poteat and Glover) and move towards a more potential-based or speculative approach.� If he does, the PS may land that elusive day two starter, the type that make good drafts great but a type absent here in the Colbert Era.� If not, well, here are some low dollar FA safeties to consider:
Eric Brown
Dexter Jackson
Izell Reese
Keion Carpenter
Cory Hall
�
Given the 3rd round picks here in the new millennium (Clancy, Poteat and Hope), the best use of 3.92 may be as compensation to the Chiefs for signing RFA SS Greg Wesley.�