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Draft 2003, D-Backs v 2.0

February 25, 2003 by Steel Phantom

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Draft 2003, D-Backs: version 2.0

 

The D-backs tested Monday in Indy; in general, the CB ran, following the lead of the big two at the position, Newman and Trufant but, from early reports, the safeties did not.The following information was taken from two sources: Bernie�s Insiders page tracking RUMORED Combine results and the TFY page, which admits less uncertainty.

 

The results are organized to address the issues proposed in the D-side Overview.Those were: Cover 3 player (whether CB or FS) and SS with TE coverage ability; additionally, a small CB (or NCB) table is provided.As was true in the D-Back version 1.0, prospects are organized by speed, not in a round-for-round fashion easily found elsewhere.��

 

Key:

 

Both 40 times will be shown; listings are by the single fastest reported on TFY.When Bernie times diverge, those will be

indicated as, say, (4.55).

 

DND:Do not draft.

DNP: Did not participate

DNR: Did not run

DNL: Did not lift

VJ:Vertical jump

BJ:Figure it out.

Height shown as follows:5115 indicates 5�-11 5/8�; 6013 indicates 6�-1 3/8�and so on.

 

 

Cover 3: Generally, FS and bigger CB

 

Player

Height

Weight

40

Reps

Remarks

CB Dennis Weathersby

6005

204

4.37

4.39

9

Will move into 1st round; still, rather weak.

S Colin Branch

5116

203

4.41

4.42

22

Chris Hope ran 4.46 and did 28 reps.

S Terrence Keil

5111

204

4.42

4.53

16

Teammate of Sammy Davis at Texas A&M

CB Sammy Davis

5116

186

4.45

4.47

(4.41)

19

More reps than any CB, 40� VJ was better than any D-back.

CB Marcus Trufant

5111

199

4.46

4.48

(4.39)

11

Bigger than expected, slower than expected.

FS Rashon Mathis

6006

202

4.47

4.47

 

22

Strong enough to play safety

CB Andre Woolfolk

6013

197

4.47

4.51

10

Weak and not as fast as touted.

CB Drayton Florence

6002

198

4.47

inj.

18

 

CB Charles Tillman

6011

207

4.48

4.54

12

Would have to gain strength to play safety but, generally, has Woolfolk measurables.

S Nnamdi Asomugha

6023

213

4.48

4.53

16

Big school 2nd day player with decent measurables.

S Hanik Milligan

6023

201

4.49

4.54

9

Pathetically weak.

CB Michael Lehan

5116

196

4.51

4.56

13

 

CB Chris Brown

6003

195

4.57

4.62

15

 

FS Anthony Floyd

5094

202

4.62

4.66

22

Produced at Louisville but is short and slow, a perfect fit for the Colbert 2nd day plan.

 

 

Not invited but figure to get drafted:

 

CB Terrence Findley, Tennessee-Martin.

S Jesse Sowells, Houston

CB Ivan Taylor, La.-Lafayette

S Frank Walker, Tuskegee

 

Discussion:

 

Players who produced in college and also have speed figure to be available at 1.27 and in the mid-rounds too.First round options are Davis, Mathis and Weathersby; mid-round options include Branch, Tillman and Asomugha.Add players who were not invited to the Combine but also produced and do have draftable measurables and it is absolutely clear that the PS ought not consider any D-back who can�t get under 4.5.��

 

 

Small CB:

 

Player

Height

Weight

40

Reps

Remarks

Rod Babers

5086

192

4.36

4.44

(4.40)

15

Good strength, excellent speed.

Kevin Garrett

5093

194

4.36

4.41

(4.32)

DNL

 

Terrence Newman

5103

189

4.37

4.41

(4.32)

DNL

Deserves credit for competing in a situation where he had little to gain and much to lose.

BJ Tucker

5104

188

4.39

4.42

16

Wisconsin player who made some money Monday.

Ricky Manning

5085

185

4.47

4.61

12

That�s quite a spread in his 40s.

Eugene Wilson

5103

192

4.52

4.54

(4.48)

15

 

Terrence McGee

5095

201

4.53

4.54

15

Northwestern State.

Donald Strickland

5100

187

4.54

4.56

16

Didn�t help himself though measurables compare to the more highly regarded Wilson.

DeJuan Groce

5100

183

4.54

4.60

(4.48)

18

Strong but slow, typical Husker.

Asante Samual

5107

185

4.58

4.59

9

Small school player who needed a big Combine.Instead, revealed as slow and weak.

Korey Banks

5097

188

4.60

4.69

15

Said to be a 4.40 guy but I guess not.

Brian Mance

5103

189

4.68

4.72

18

Another short, strong, slow guy.

Shane Walton

5105

184

4.69

4.70

11

Time to get on with life�s work.

 

Terrell Roberts

5091

203

4.69

4.72

18

As above.

Jason Goss

5100

183

4.69

4.70

15

D.O.

Torrie Cox

5092

181

DNR

DNL

DND

 

Discussion:

 

Oddly, except for the first four listed here, the remaining smallish CB generally were up the track when compared to the Cover 3 types above.

 

Strong Safety types:

 

The top SS types didn�t compete; the rest ran slow.Nick Barnett, who I had imagined as a SS, came in bulked up and worked out with the LB; however, he would have run no worse than third in this sad group.Off the speed criteria discussed elsewhere, most of these stiffs are undraftable.Exceptions are noted in boldface.It may be worth considering Nnamdi Asomugha as a SS candidate; his stats are shown under Cover 3 above; of note, he�s about the same size as Hamlin (and Battle) but runs far better.Listed as a CB suggesting the Lake Road, if in reverse.

 

Player

Height

Weight

40

Reps

Remarks

Derek Pagel

6010

208

4.55

459

25

Iowa tough guy; a Cowher type.

Antwoine Sanders

6015

202

4.57

4.64

14

Too weak to be that slow.

Nick Barnett

6015

236

High 4.5s

32

Certainly strong enough; needs to slim down and get back towards that alleged 4.33.

Curry Burns

6003

216

4.59

4.60

19

 

Willie Pile

6020

206

4.60

4.63

14

 

Todd Johnson

6007

206

4.60

4.68

19

4.60 is marginally draftable, 4.68 is not.

Ken Hamlin

6024

209

4.60

4.62

16

Not real strong, not nearly fast enough.4th-5th round in my book.

Cato June

6001

218

4.64

inj.

DNL

Big school slow safety, DND.

Donny Nickey

6022

208

4.66

4.66

17

Consistently slow, DND.

Gerome Sapp

6001

216

4.68

4.69

DNL

Big school slow safety, DND.

Norm LeJeune

6003

200

4.62

4.68

11

Big school slow safety, DND.

Thomas Wright

6013

201

4.77

4.79

13

Most DE run faster.

Charles Drake

6010

205

Inj.

20

 

Terrence Holt

6016

208

DNR

16

 

Julian Battle

6022

205

DNP

DNP

 

Mike Doss

5101

207

DNP

DNP

 

Troy Polamula

5101

206

DNP

DNP

 

 

Summary:

 

Despite Kevin Colbert�s recent pronouncements, speed is of the essence.Since taking over here in 2000, Mr. Colbert has drafted impressively through the first two rounds but his record from round 3 to the close has not been good.Of seven players selected in 2000 from the 3rd on, only (3) remain with the team and for one of those (Poteat), NFL truly does stand for not-for-long.Three of five remain from the late picks in the class of 2001, however, all of those men are linemen; the speed guys, Roger Knight and Chris Taylor, were cut in camp.The 2002 class looks little better; in fact, the only 2nd day D-side space player selected that year (Lavar Glover) got cut in camp too.Typically, Mr. Colbert has ignored the measurables on Day 2 and, typically, he�s come away with nothing, at least not for the edge positions.DB drafted by Colbert include: Poteat, Hope and Glover; add OLB Roger Knight and its clear why the Steeler ST coverage units have been among the slowest and least effective in all of football.So long as Mr. Colbert pursues his day two modus where modest differences in productivity trump considerable differences in upside, those units, and the Steelers championship hopes, shall founder.

 

On the plus side, Sammy Davis is just the kind of player that the Steelers have selected round 1 in the Colbert Era; good productivity, big school, good measurables.IMO, Davis will be the guy at 1.27 though Rashon Mathis would constitute value at that spot too.Of course, (1) DB won�t get it; the PS require a flood of talent at that position.�� To get there, Mr. Colbert will have to abandon his fixation on the small and slow (Poteat and Glover) and move towards a more potential-based or speculative approach.If he does, the PS may land that elusive day two starter, the type that make good drafts great but a type absent here in the Colbert Era.If not, well, here are some low dollar FA safeties to consider:

 

Eric Brown

Dexter Jackson

Izell Reese

Keion Carpenter

Cory Hall

Given the 3rd round picks here in the new millennium (Clancy, Poteat and Hope), the best use of 3.92 may be as compensation to the Chiefs for signing RFA SS Greg Wesley.

 

 

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