24 March 2001: Draft Notebook
This report is an interim between Stacking the Board 2 (previously posted) and STB 3 to follow.� This piece presumes that the 2001 Stillers shall ply the 3-4, do or die.� The column heads follow those laid out in STB 2.� Since I�ve discussed a good many of these prospects previously, I won�t repeat myself here.
First Round:� These players have the physical traits to Fit the Stillers System and could be values at the spot.
Player |
Eye Test |
College Production |
Workouts confirm eye test? |
Football Character |
Value per�� round |
Draft or DND |
Remarks |
Similar type |
(Gerard Warren) |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
No info |
Premium DT require premium spots |
Yes |
Top 3 selection |
Shaun Rogers |
Dan Morgan |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Excellent |
Dubious, quality MLB later. |
Yes |
Best character/talent and fit to system |
Kendrell Bell |
Richard Seymour |
Yes |
Very good, not great barely mid-1st. |
No info |
Mixed |
Absolutely, as Warren |
Yes |
Has 2-gap size and may have explosiveness |
Kris Jenkins |
Nate Clements |
Yes |
Very good, not great projection at mid-1st. |
Yes |
No info |
Yes, top CB come at a premium too. |
Yes, top athlete and OSU CB have performed |
4.38 40, good KR. Ideally, would allow Scott to go to FS in 2001. |
Ken Lucas |
Willie Middlebrooks |
Yes |
Good, but not 1st round material |
Yes |
No info |
Yes, as Clements |
No.� Extreme projection at this spot. |
Could be great but very much a size/speed prospect here. |
William Petersen |
Reaches:� Middlebrooks is at the head of a list of players I like, but not at 16.� This includes Casey Hampton, Alan Archuleta and Will Allen.� All these men have physical attributes that are, roughly, state of the art combined with high football character.� All fit the system and any would help the Stillers.� However, at 16, they would each be a reach.�
First Round Continues:� These men have the ability and character to succeed in the NFL but Do Not Fit the Stillers System.
Player |
Eye Test |
College Production |
Workouts confirm eye test? |
Football Character |
Value per�� round |
Draft or DND |
Remarks |
Similar type |
Justin Smith |
Yes, prototype 4-3 RDE |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes, premium pass rusher |
Won�t be available. |
Would need twin jumbo DT to succeed in 3-4. |
DeLawrence Grant |
Andre Carter |
Yes, as Brackens type |
Yes |
Yes, ran 4.56 40 at 6�-4�, 250# |
Yes, good bloodlines too. |
Yes |
Would require DT protection as a 4-3DE.�� OLB with speed confirmation |
Great technician who could learn OLB |
Kyle Vanden Bosch |
Jamal Reynolds |
Yes, as Hardy/Boulware type |
Yes |
Yes, 4.68 at 268# 4.55 at 255#. |
No info |
Yes |
Yes, as a LB.� Reminds me of Chad Brown. |
Work out at LB before drafting |
Karon Riley |
Daimoine Lewis |
Marginal |
Yes, but senior year declined |
Not state of the art |
No info |
Yes |
No, this man is a one-gap 4-3 DT.� |
Poor fit for the Stillers. Marginal value at 16 for any team. |
Willie Howard, Ron Edwards |
Drew Brees |
No, short |
Yes |
No, arm strength. |
Yes |
Yes |
No |
West Coast QB doesn�t fit |
Chris Weinke |
Summary:� There are (1) QB, (3) RB, (2) WR and (2) OT who will probably be gone when the Stillers draft.� They are: Vick, Deuce, LT, Bennett, Terrell, Robinson, Davis and Walker.� WR Mitchell and Moss, TE Heap and OG Hutchinson may go too.� That�s 8-12 offensive players.
Warren and Smith will be in the Top 5; added to the O-side, that is 10-14 players.� This would leave 1-5 teams who have a shot at the (5) D-side players who could help the Stillers but aren�t top 5 guys.� Those odds are, at best, fair though they would get a lot better if Stroud and Lewis go out early.
In sum, 0-5 of the following players will be available.� Those are: Morgan, Seymour, Clements, Reynolds and Carter.� Based on their workouts and college productivity, Carter and Reynolds are similar players.� On my team, either could replace Gildon though, assuming his 4.56 is legit, Carter is my man.� Both have the production but since they do not fit the system, are projections with respect to position.
Seymour and Clements, while they play different positions, both fit various Stiller needs.� However, their college productivity did not reflect the dominance we might have expected.� Both are projections based on type; neither are sure-fire producers.
Morgan is the best bet to bring immediate help at a position of need.� However, 16 is high for an MLB and, with two MLB like Holmes and Morgan, the 3-4 could be enfranchised here forever.
(DND):� Stroud, Lewis.�
First Round Outlook:� The percentage play is to look to trade down.� Start now. I�d be happier with (3) picks between 25-55 than with 16/50.� Turning to the 2nd round:
Second Round:� Again, players who would be values and Fit the Stillers System.� By type/position, Hampton or Middlebrooks would be very good picks.� Archuleta seems like a player but safety is not a maximum need.��
Player |
Eye Test |
College Production |
Workouts confirm eye test? |
Football Character |
Value per�� round |
Draft or DND |
Remarks |
Similar type |
Shaun Rogers |
Yes |
Spotty |
No info |
Sam Adams |
Yes |
Yes |
Contingent on injury |
Mario Monds |
Sedrick Hodges |
Yes |
Very good |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Freakish |
Orlando Huff |
Kris Jenkins |
Yes |
Spotty |
Yes |
Mixed, intelligent but has been poorly coached |
Yes |
Yes, contingent on interview |
Could have more upside than Seymour interview critical |
Fred Wakefield |
Kendrell Bell |
Not quite |
Very good |
Good, not freakish |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
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Eric Westmoreland |
Torrance Marshall |
Not quite |
Very good |
Good, not freakish |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Has championship intangibles |
Edgar Hartwell |
Ken Lucas |
Yes |
Good |
Yes, sub-4.5 40 |
No info |
Yes |
Maybe |
Turns down tackles? |
Gary Baxter |
Drafting for need:� by 2nd day, I mean 4th or 5th round.� It�s potluck after that.
- Defensive Line:� the Stillers need a minimum of (2) two-gap players.� This type is capable of playing the 4-3 and is essential to the 3-4.� The DL is so terrible that there isn�t a player in the world, including Sapp, who, alone, could up-grade that unit�s performance.� Forget the idea of a single savior and forget all one-gap players.� Since the Stillers have not moved in FA, (2) picks are required here.� Two-gap players available this spring are limited to:
Position |
1st day value |
2nd day value |
Pass rushers |
Richard Seymour Kris Jenkins |
Ron Edwards Daleroy Stewart Derrick Chambers Fred Wakefield |
Run-stopper only |
Shaun Rogers Casey Hampton |
Mario Fatafehi Mario Monds Shawn Wortham |
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The DL is full of scrubs; of the players listed as 2nd day types, I like the Mario brothers but both may be out in the 3rd.� A minimum of (1) 1st day pick is required here; I wouldn�t be upset if the Stillers used both for this unit.
- The Stillers need a LB capable of replacing Kirkland now and Gildon in 2002, should the 3-4 finally die.� They could use a run-stuffer to back up Holmes; it would be great if this player had the speed to help on ST.� Players available this spring are:
Position |
1st day value |
2nd day value |
Coverage linebacker |
Dan Morgan Sedrick Hodge Kendrell Bell Torrance Marshall |
Eric Westmoreland, Brian Allen Orlando Huff Chris Edmonds |
Run-stopper only |
Carlos Polk |
Edgar Hartwell Brandon Spoon |
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- The Stillers need a primetime CB with size/speed.� This would allow Scott to go to FS; alternatively, the Stillers need a safety with speed and ball skills.� I subscribe to the �best player� principle but with the needs in the Fr. 7 and OL, I�d be satisfied with (1) DB.� Some players available this spring are:
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Position |
1st day value |
2nd day value |
CB |
Clements, Allen, Middlebrooks |
Micheal Stone William Petersen Dwight Smith Eric Kelly, late |
Safety with ball skills |
Gary Baxter Idrees Bashir |
Adrian Wilson Corey Hall, late |
- Given the 2002 contract situation on the O-line, the Stillers could use a couple of interior prospects now.� As previous, I�m reserving them for the second day.� Players available this spring are:
Position |
4th-6th |
7th-FA |
OG/C |
Casey Rabach Bernard Robertson |
Jeff McCurley Bruce Wiggins John Semchenko |
OG/T |
Paul Zukauskas Matt Light Ryan Diem |
Micheal Keathley Scott Kempenich Dennis Norman Scott Draper |
Outlook:� the best move remains for the Stillers to trade out of 16.� The defense needs a minimum of (1) premium cover type, whether LB or DB and (2) premium DL.� That�s tough with (2) 1st day picks.� With three D-side 1st day picks, between 30-70, the Stillers could reserve the 4th round for the interior OL.�
Without a trade, the Stillers might be best served to go DL with both 1st day selections.� The FA train has left the station with all useful DL players on-board.� The cap victims remaining, while big names, are nearly done.� Excluding Washington, the 3-4 Stillers aren�t attractive to those men.� Washington is about 33; he has maybe two years.� It is highly likely that his contract would consume much of the 2002 cap space freed by cutting Dirt and Kirk.�
Make the trade; the Stillers should spend 2 of their first 3 picks on the DL.�� They need (2) two-gap players early in a two-gap limited draft.� As things stand, they may have to rely on some 4th round selection.� We�ve seen that before.�� I�d rather take my chances with, say, Westmoreland in the 4th, Smith in the 5th and Zukauskas at 5c than Stewart or Edwards.